The tribulations of working with independent agents! Yes, there are lots of "what ifs.....". Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Simonds Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > Now if only we knew what placement these S series SNPs were on the Y > chromosome. > If we don't know where they are, how will we know that they are the same when some other testing company like Family Tree DNA "discovers" them again? > Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 15:18:01 +1000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > The M223 tree makes more sense now with those two samples added and CTS616 > and Z161 placed on the tree. > > Thanks for all the work you have done with the Chromo2 results. > > Now if only we knew what placement these S series SNPs were on the Y > chromosome. > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > And I had missed sample 184. He appears to be CTS616- and of that YCA > > 17/19 > > clade. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne R. Roberts > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 6:59 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees > > > > Kenneth, > > > > For M223, it appears all the samples (thus branches) are downstream of > > CTS616, CTS9183. Is that correct? > > > > Also of those downstream of CTS10057, CTS10100, all samples (branches) > > are > > Z161 and all of those are L801. Correct? > > > > So the implications are: no M223* samples upstream of CTS616, no L1228* > > samples, no L701*/L702* samples, no L623* samples and no Z161* samples > > upstream of L801/Z183. Also there are no M284 samples that are L1195-. > > > > I am unclear of the placement of sample 189. It appears to be parallel > > to > > the Z2054-Z2102 branch. I assume 189 is not a Roots 911 person as he > > would > > still be positive for some or all of Z2055 to Z2102 and negative for > > Z2054. > > Therefore 189 is a unique new branch and there are no samples that are > > L1229 and Z2054-. > > > > Wayne > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I have finished my first cut at putting all the anonymous haplogroup I > > raw > > > data files I obtained for Chromo2 results. > > > > > > They are in my website as powerpoint slides under names > > > "Chromo2......" > > > with suffixes F597 L22 Z58 I1xZ58xL22 M223 and P37. > > > > > > Now F597 is an erroneous snp name which should be L597. But only > > > those > > in > > > that division of haplogroup I will probably know the difference right > > now. > > > I'll get that corrected shortly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kenneth, It has been pointed out by a I-M223 member that sample number 269 appears twice in the Chromo2M223 tree.

I'm glad things are being checked to the degree that can be done. S5025 snp is downstream of the triplet of snps which includes CTS1977, so if you look again at "Chromo2M223" you will see the correction. thanks for the vigilance. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 3:08 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Chromo2 Trees Kenneth, It has been pointed out by a I-M223 member that sample number 269 appears twice in the Chromo2M223 tree. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message