I can report that you have no clumps of NVs which survived weeding. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:04 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* So, a Novel Variant is Novel to the genetic community because it has not been named, but not to me. A Private SNP to me is a Unique Novel Variant. If I have a stack of Unique Novel Variants, are they linear because they are in one individual or can Mutations occur in one individual simultaneously if in different regions? And if that is yes, Are mutations in a single region of a single individual linear? Because I have two such regions that have five Novel Variants, assuming they are also Unique, and are linear and downstream from each other, they would represent approximately 1500 years of Mutations. Does that increase the age of our Haplogroup by 1500 years? To have so many simultaneous mutations, what environmental stress could account for that? I hope to use a private SNP to weed in or weed out individuals in my genetic cluster at the Reed project. If they are weeded in then they are AS10b as I am, right? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you > and > close colleagues. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, > find > primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > > I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by > position? > FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > > I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that > were > originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also > have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 > to > 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I > thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > > What do you think? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >> start: >> >> 2668557 >> 2831544 >> 15226727 >> 14138491 >> 13807060 >> 13670021 >> 7540762 >> >> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >> and >> SNP? >> >> Richard Reed >> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>> evident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>> the >>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>> >>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>> take >>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>> places >>> I'm sure. >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> >>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>> spread >>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>> with >>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>> by >>>> the others. >>>> >>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>> separated >>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>> Novel >>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message