What's the bottom line issue? Do you doubt you are I1? I am not going to chase every screw up FTDNA makes. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Carl Sheffield Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 2:16 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] L41 Ken, In January 2013 you had a dialog with Obed Odom about no-calls of L41 among I1 members but not I2 members. FTDNA's new tree moves L41 from the I stem to the I2 stem. If you look at my BigY results, I am positive for the I1 branch and for L41. Is this a clue that proves the FTDNA tree is wrong or does it mean something else? I am also positive for L104, deep inside of I2, but negative for everything between L41 and L104. I interpret L104+ as a private mutation in my line which just happens to match the I2 L104. Can you think of other explanations? Carl Sheffield Kit #123861 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message