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    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Beware - BIG Y results being altered
    2. Lawrence Mayka
    3. Whatever's going on is much worse than a mere shifting of variants from one list to another. One Big Y result in my project was re-released today. The previous results, including a classification of Q-Z780 (or equivalently Q-CTS1780), looked complete and consistent with themselves, with 25 STRs, and with a backbone result of P36+, even though unusual for my project. (I suspected that someone was fibbing on the adoption papers.) The new classification is R-Z367. But more importantly, the new Big Y results look incomplete and inconsistent with themselves, and certainly totally inconsistent with STRs and the backbone test. Although Z367 is a subclade of R-L2, he did not test positive for any of L2, U152, P312, P310, L11, L51, L23, M269, P297, P25, M343, or M207. In another project I co-administer, one of the re-released Big Y results looks incomplete. The previous results included CTS1211+ and CTS3402+ as expected from 67 STRs, whereas the new results omit both of those and classify him merely as R-Z280. From: "Wayne R. Roberts" <i.m223.roberts@gmail.com> I have just seen four members of the I-M223 Project appear in the Received Results list Big Y results. All four have previously received results. On look at their Big Y results, I see the number of their Novel Variants have been reduced by over half, in the case of one member his High and Medium confidence Novels have gone from 269 down to 68. WTF is going on at FTDNA.

    05/29/2014 01:02:26
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Beware - BIG Y results being altered
    2. Kenneth Nordtvedt
    3. So maybe my earthquake alarm was too conservative? Perhaps invasion by hostile aliens? It even made my PC get tied up in knots as I hit keys too fast in my anger. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Mayka Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:02 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Beware - BIG Y results being altered Whatever's going on is much worse than a mere shifting of variants from one list to another. One Big Y result in my project was re-released today. The previous results, including a classification of Q-Z780 (or equivalently Q-CTS1780), looked complete and consistent with themselves, with 25 STRs, and with a backbone result of P36+, even though unusual for my project. (I suspected that someone was fibbing on the adoption papers.) The new classification is R-Z367. But more importantly, the new Big Y results look incomplete and inconsistent with themselves, and certainly totally inconsistent with STRs and the backbone test. Although Z367 is a subclade of R-L2, he did not test positive for any of L2, U152, P312, P310, L11, L51, L23, M269, P297, P25, M343, or M207. In another project I co-administer, one of the re-released Big Y results looks incomplete. The previous results included CTS1211+ and CTS3402+ as expected from 67 STRs, whereas the new results omit both of those and classify him merely as R-Z280. From: "Wayne R. Roberts" <i.m223.roberts@gmail.com> I have just seen four members of the I-M223 Project appear in the Received Results list Big Y results. All four have previously received results. On look at their Big Y results, I see the number of their Novel Variants have been reduced by over half, in the case of one member his High and Medium confidence Novels have gone from 269 down to 68. WTF is going on at FTDNA. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/29/2014 12:30:21