OK, thanks I'll go check out YSEQ. Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > The short list is about half your vetted (weeded) unique snps. I'm tired of > explaining the dumb things FTDNA does, including the name "novel variants". > Most of your NVs are found in many, many people. They are just new to the > old world prior to BigY. > > I think YSEQ prices to buy a snp test are comparable to FTDNA charge, maybe > a bit less. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:10 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > So the short list you sent is now all 217 NVs? > > Have you an idea of the cost at YSEQ? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel >> variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you >> and >> close colleagues. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kenneth Nordtvedt >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, >> find >> primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. >> >> I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, >> there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by >> position? >> FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. >> >> I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that >> were >> originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also >> have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 >> to >> 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I >> thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Richard Reed >> >> On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >>> start: >>> >>> 2668557 >>> 2831544 >>> 15226727 >>> 14138491 >>> 13807060 >>> 13670021 >>> 7540762 >>> >>> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >>> and >>> SNP? >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>>> evident. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>>> the >>>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>>> >>>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>>> take >>>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>>> places >>>> I'm sure. >>>> >>>> Richard Reed >>>> >>>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>>> spread >>>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>>> with >>>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>>> by >>>>> the others. >>>>> >>>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>>> separated >>>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>>> >>>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Richard Reed >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>>> >>>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>>> Novel >>>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>>> >>>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
YSEQ currently has a circa 30% off sale lasting until Father's Day. Their website is at: <http://shop.yseq.net/> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Richard Reed <reedr@wcoil.com> wrote: > OK, thanks I'll go check out YSEQ. > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > > > The short list is about half your vetted (weeded) unique snps. I'm > tired of > > explaining the dumb things FTDNA does, including the name "novel > variants". > > Most of your NVs are found in many, many people. They are just new to > the > > old world prior to BigY. > > > > I think YSEQ prices to buy a snp test are comparable to FTDNA charge, > maybe > > a bit less. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Reed > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:10 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > > > So the short list you sent is now all 217 NVs? > > > > Have you an idea of the cost at YSEQ? > > > > Richard Reed > > > > On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < > knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > >> variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you > >> and > >> close colleagues. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> > >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >> > >> Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, > >> find > >> primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > >> > >> I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > >> there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> > >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Richard Reed > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >> > >> Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by > >> position? > >> FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > >> > >> I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that > >> were > >> originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I > also > >> have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 > >> to > >> 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these > regions I > >> thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> Richard Reed > >> > >> On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < > knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but > here's a > >>> start: > >>> > >>> 2668557 > >>> 2831544 > >>> 15226727 > >>> 14138491 > >>> 13807060 > >>> 13670021 > >>> 7540762 > >>> > >>> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >>> > >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Richard Reed > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM > >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >>> > >>> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin > down > >>> and > >>> SNP? > >>> > >>> Richard Reed > >>> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < > knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly > >>>> evident. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >>>> > >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Richard Reed > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM > >>>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >>>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >>>> > >>>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the > >>>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have > cooled > >>>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR > in > >>>> the > >>>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in > STRs, > >>>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. > >>>> > >>>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may > >>>> take > >>>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong > >>>> places > >>>> I'm sure. > >>>> > >>>> Richard Reed > >>>> > >>>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" > >>>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison > >>>>> spread > >>>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are > alone > >>>>> with > >>>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not > shared > >>>>> by > >>>>> the others. > >>>>> > >>>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which > >>>>> separated > >>>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b > clade > >>>>> member to share some of those novel variants > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >>>>> > >>>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >>>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Richard Reed > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM > >>>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > >>>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >>>>> > >>>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile > of > >>>>> Novel > >>>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret > them. > >>>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? > >>>>> > >>>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>>> without > >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>> without > >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >