As far as I know, only one I1-P has Big Y results. I compared his novel variants against those of an I1-M227 (because both clades are CTS6364+). I used other I1 examples (Z63, DF29*) to winnow out false positives/negatives. I then compared my results against Ken's Chromo2I1xZ58xL22. The I1-P (and no one else among these) is S7642+ S7657+ S16432+ . He is negative for CTS3322 (= S3877), and the locations of S11236 and S24397 are not listed as novel variants for him; so he appears to be in the same position as sample 150 in Ken's diagram. The I1-P has other novel variants not found in others, but for the moment I requested from FTDNA only S7642 as an individual test. The I1-P and M227 (and no one else I looked at) share S4767, S4795, and S20246, among others. S4767 and S4795 are on Ken's diagram, so I requested tests for them, with the idea that these may be useful for categorizing CTS6364+ men who don't fit cleanly into popular clades. Interestingly, two named SNPs (S2007/Y1932 and FGC7050), as well as some others, are shared by I1-P, M227, and DF29* (kit E16729), but not Z63. These SNPs don't appear on Ken's diagram, though, so for now I did not request tests for either of them. Perhaps I should?

Hi Larry, Are there any SNPs which I could order for me to progress your research? Best, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mayka Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P As far as I know, only one I1-P has Big Y results. I compared his novel variants against those of an I1-M227 (because both clades are CTS6364+). I used other I1 examples (Z63, DF29*) to winnow out false positives/negatives. I then compared my results against Ken's Chromo2I1xZ58xL22. The I1-P (and no one else among these) is S7642+ S7657+ S16432+ . He is negative for CTS3322 (= S3877), and the locations of S11236 and S24397 are not listed as novel variants for him; so he appears to be in the same position as sample 150 in Ken's diagram. The I1-P has other novel variants not found in others, but for the moment I requested from FTDNA only S7642 as an individual test. The I1-P and M227 (and no one else I looked at) share S4767, S4795, and S20246, among others. S4767 and S4795 are on Ken's diagram, so I requested tests for them, with the idea that these may be useful for categorizing CTS6364+ men who don't fit cleanly into popular clades. Interestingly, two named SNPs (S2007/Y1932 and FGC7050), as well as some others, are shared by I1-P, M227, and DF29* (kit E16729), but not Z63. These SNPs don't appear on Ken's diagram, though, so for now I did not request tests for either of them. Perhaps I should? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Mayka Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:56 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P The I1-P and M227 (and no one else I looked at) share S4767, S4795, and S20246, among others. S4767 and S4795 are on Ken's diagram, so I requested tests for them, with the idea that these may be useful for categorizing CTS6364+ men who don't fit cleanly into popular clades. [[S20246=17816063 shows derived (novel variant) for many, many I1 located all over the tree. I don't think it useful for the more localized M227/I1-P region. I find location 8876684 a good weeded snp unique to I1-P and M227. KN]]