I believe that will the the C by the T. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:27 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree Hummm, okay. Perhaps you can advise me which of the letters on the right hand side correspond to Christie/Hansen kit 226867? On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > All individual downstream weeded NVs are now included in BigYtree-P109 > > All hell breaks loose when the next P109 result comes forth. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:10 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > Nicolas, Thank you for the S series identifications and position > correction > for S25633 > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicolas Taban > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 1:19 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > Ken I saw your update today. > Despite I tend to agree that position would be more precise, they are also > more difficult to read and remember (a combination of letters and numbers > seems easier for the brain). > > So please note that: > 8112824 = S11056 > 22802502 = S7660 > > Also, I do not understand why you have 23486236 = S25633 in this place as > we > are all positive to it. > Have you had a look to the slide I sent you (also available on the I1 > facebook group)? The main structure of the I-P109 subtree is already there > joining both Chromo2 and BigY results (without all the private SNPs). > > Regards, > Nicolas Taban > > > From: knordtvedt@bresnan.net > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 08:01:49 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicolas Taban > > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 6:36 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > > > You seem to exclude position 17819410 that I previously asked to be > > seeded. > > It regroups (in your slide) "Ca", "R", "Cr" and "A". Have you seeded it > > and > > concluded that it was not a reliable position? > > > > [[Yes, indeed it does survive weeding and unites those four. I just > missed > > it. As is pretty clear, P109 tree is preliminary; it does not include > > unique NVs for many individuals yet. KN]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can it be safely assumed that "D" is Djukic (FTDNA kit No: 187930)? Also, who is "Sil"? Thanks, Stevan 2014-05-27 2:26 GMT+02:00 Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>: > I believe that will the the C by the T. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne R. Roberts > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:27 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > Hummm, okay. Perhaps you can advise me which of the letters on the right > hand side correspond to Christie/Hansen kit 226867? > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > All individual downstream weeded NVs are now included in BigYtree-P109 > > > > All hell breaks loose when the next P109 result comes forth. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:10 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > > > Nicolas, Thank you for the S series identifications and position > > correction > > for S25633 > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicolas Taban > > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 1:19 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > > > Ken I saw your update today. > > Despite I tend to agree that position would be more precise, they are > also > > more difficult to read and remember (a combination of letters and numbers > > seems easier for the brain). > > > > So please note that: > > 8112824 = S11056 > > 22802502 = S7660 > > > > Also, I do not understand why you have 23486236 = S25633 in this place as > > we > > are all positive to it. > > Have you had a look to the slide I sent you (also available on the I1 > > facebook group)? The main structure of the I-P109 subtree is already > there > > joining both Chromo2 and BigY results (without all the private SNPs). > > > > Regards, > > Nicolas Taban > > > > > From: knordtvedt@bresnan.net > > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 08:01:49 -0600 > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Nicolas Taban > > > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 6:36 AM > > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [yDNAhgI] I-P109 sub tree > > > > > > You seem to exclude position 17819410 that I previously asked to be > > > seeded. > > > It regroups (in your slide) "Ca", "R", "Cr" and "A". Have you seeded it > > > and > > > concluded that it was not a reliable position? > > > > > > [[Yes, indeed it does survive weeding and unites those four. I just > > missed > > > it. As is pretty clear, P109 tree is preliminary; it does not include > > > unique NVs for many individuals yet. KN]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >