Ken, does that make my husband, kit 267833, I1-P? He is CTS6364+, L69+, L1275- . We haven't tested L22 because he is DYS390=22 and all the L22 folk are =23 so it seemed pointless. Should we have tested? Carol Gilbert okusgold@me.com On 21 May 2014, at 03:14, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > I1-P is a clade found mainly in Poland,Prussia, Pomerania. It is CTS6364+ > L69+ L22- See "Tree for I1xZ58xL22xZ63" > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Simonds > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:20 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P > > > What is I1-P? What is the terminal SNP? > Matthew Simonds > > > >> From: msskarbek@gmail.com >> To: lgmayka@ieee.org; y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:06:56 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P >> >> Hi Larry, >> Are there any SNPs which I could order for me to progress your research? >> Best, >> Marek Skarbek Kozietulski >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence >> Mayka >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56 PM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P >> >> As far as I know, only one I1-P has Big Y results. I compared his novel >> variants against those of an I1-M227 (because both clades are CTS6364+). >> I >> used other I1 examples (Z63, DF29*) to winnow out false >> positives/negatives. >> I then compared my results against Ken's Chromo2I1xZ58xL22. >> >> >> >> The I1-P (and no one else among these) is S7642+ S7657+ S16432+ . He is >> negative for CTS3322 (= S3877), and the locations of S11236 and S24397 are >> not listed as novel variants for him; so he appears to be in the same >> position as sample 150 in Ken's diagram. >> >> >> >> The I1-P has other novel variants not found in others, but for the moment >> I >> requested from FTDNA only S7642 as an individual test. >> >> >> >> The I1-P and M227 (and no one else I looked at) share S4767, S4795, and >> S20246, among others. S4767 and S4795 are on Ken's diagram, so I >> requested >> tests for them, with the idea that these may be useful for categorizing >> CTS6364+ men who don't fit cleanly into popular clades. >> >> >> >> Interestingly, two named SNPs (S2007/Y1932 and FGC7050), as well as some >> others, are shared by I1-P, M227, and DF29* (kit E16729), but not Z63. >> These SNPs don't appear on Ken's diagram, though, so for now I did not >> request tests for either of them. Perhaps I should? >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Omitted to add he is also CTS10028- . So in full, he is I1-M253+, CTS6364+, L69+, L1275-, CTS10028-, Z58-, Z63- Carol Gilbert okusgold@me.com On 21 May 2014, at 10:00, Carol Gilbert <okusgold@me.com> wrote: > Ken, does that make my husband, kit 267833, I1-P? He is CTS6364+, L69+, L1275-. We haven't tested L22 because he is DYS390=22 and all the L22 folk are =23 so it seemed pointless. Should we have tested? > Carol Gilbert > okusgold@me.com > > > > > > > On 21 May 2014, at 03:14, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > >> I1-P is a clade found mainly in Poland,Prussia, Pomerania. It is CTS6364+ >> L69+ L22- See "Tree for I1xZ58xL22xZ63" >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matthew Simonds >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:20 PM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P >> >> >> What is I1-P? What is the terminal SNP? >> Matthew Simonds >> >> >> >>> From: msskarbek@gmail.com >>> To: lgmayka@ieee.org; y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:06:56 -0700 >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P >>> >>> Hi Larry, >>> Are there any SNPs which I could order for me to progress your research? >>> Best, >>> Marek Skarbek Kozietulski >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence >>> Mayka >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56 PM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] SNPs for I1-P >>> >>> As far as I know, only one I1-P has Big Y results. I compared his novel >>> variants against those of an I1-M227 (because both clades are CTS6364+). >>> I >>> used other I1 examples (Z63, DF29*) to winnow out false >>> positives/negatives. >>> I then compared my results against Ken's Chromo2I1xZ58xL22. >>> >>> >>> >>> The I1-P (and no one else among these) is S7642+ S7657+ S16432+ . He is >>> negative for CTS3322 (= S3877), and the locations of S11236 and S24397 are >>> not listed as novel variants for him; so he appears to be in the same >>> position as sample 150 in Ken's diagram. >>> >>> >>> >>> The I1-P has other novel variants not found in others, but for the moment >>> I >>> requested from FTDNA only S7642 as an individual test. >>> >>> >>> >>> The I1-P and M227 (and no one else I looked at) share S4767, S4795, and >>> S20246, among others. S4767 and S4795 are on Ken's diagram, so I >>> requested >>> tests for them, with the idea that these may be useful for categorizing >>> CTS6364+ men who don't fit cleanly into popular clades. >>> >>> >>> >>> Interestingly, two named SNPs (S2007/Y1932 and FGC7050), as well as some >>> others, are shared by I1-P, M227, and DF29* (kit E16729), but not Z63. >>> These SNPs don't appear on Ken's diagram, though, so for now I did not >>> request tests for either of them. Perhaps I should? >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message