I think it is important to remember that should people choose to test an SNP with Yseq, they need to ask for a sampling kit to be sent to them, then send back a sample for testing. This could take some weeks depending on which country people live. I do not think most people would like their remaining samples at FTDNA to be transferred over to Yseq though I think this is an option that is available, I may be wrong. Also your result at one company is not transferable to another company. I'm not saying don't test with this one or that one or both, just to be aware of possible issues. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > I think you are perhaps missing your coffee this morning? Rules are not to > quote prices. I did not. I do not get royalties from anyone; I hardly get > interest from my bank on savings account. > > If Didier is to intervene, I would think it would be concerning your highly > personalized complaining about me. > > It is an important fact for hobbyists to learn that so far yseq has given > customers test results for ysnps much faster than the other company. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: nicolas.taban > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:01 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for > sale > > I am sorry but with all respect to both you Ken and Yseq, I feel you are > going too far now. > These messages give me the impression your getting royalties for each time > you write Yseq. > I guess Didier should have already intervened. > > I share your frustration with FTDNA, but please keep to the good hobby jobb > you are otherwise doing. > > Ps: to be complete, may be you should mention that in order to propose a > new > SNP to Yseq, one has to pay a 1$ fee. > > > Mvh/Regards > > Nicolas Taban > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > Date:27/05/2014 17:26 (GMT+01:00) > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for sale > > It is so refreshing to see the quick response time of www.yseq.net so far > for individual ysnp orders. Hope this continues. > FTDNA seems to continue its agonizing long delays in doing ysnp tests of > either kind, individual or group. > > The two BigY trees, “BigYtree-Z138” and “BigYtree-L338 AS1” in I1, found at > my websites link below, have a good number of green snps indicated. These > are downstream snps from BigY which www.yseq.net will test individually > for > a decent price. > > If your dna haplotype suggests you are close to either of these tree > regions, I recommend ordering some of these downstream snps. In both these > sectors we are entering the historical or genealogical era. > > If you see ysnps in these trees not yet green but which you think would be > informative for you, ask www.yseq.net if they will add them to their > catalog. Send them y location number (most important) and “name” if it has > one. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Wayne; I really think those are trivial points, but yes, all should be aware of every fine point. The readiness and speed that yseq is responding concerning making new snps available for testing individually is a giant fresh breeze in the hobby. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:25 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for sale I think it is important to remember that should people choose to test an SNP with Yseq, they need to ask for a sampling kit to be sent to them, then send back a sample for testing. This could take some weeks depending on which country people live. I do not think most people would like their remaining samples at FTDNA to be transferred over to Yseq though I think this is an option that is available, I may be wrong. Also your result at one company is not transferable to another company. I'm not saying don't test with this one or that one or both, just to be aware of possible issues. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > I think you are perhaps missing your coffee this morning? Rules are not > to > quote prices. I did not. I do not get royalties from anyone; I hardly > get > interest from my bank on savings account. > > If Didier is to intervene, I would think it would be concerning your > highly > personalized complaining about me. > > It is an important fact for hobbyists to learn that so far yseq has given > customers test results for ysnps much faster than the other company. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: nicolas.taban > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:01 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for > sale > > I am sorry but with all respect to both you Ken and Yseq, I feel you are > going too far now. > These messages give me the impression your getting royalties for each time > you write Yseq. > I guess Didier should have already intervened. > > I share your frustration with FTDNA, but please keep to the good hobby > jobb > you are otherwise doing. > > Ps: to be complete, may be you should mention that in order to propose a > new > SNP to Yseq, one has to pay a 1$ fee. > > > Mvh/Regards > > Nicolas Taban > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > Date:27/05/2014 17:26 (GMT+01:00) > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for sale > > It is so refreshing to see the quick response time of www.yseq.net so far > for individual ysnp orders. Hope this continues. > FTDNA seems to continue its agonizing long delays in doing ysnp tests of > either kind, individual or group. > > The two BigY trees, “BigYtree-Z138” and “BigYtree-L338 AS1” in I1, found > at > my websites link below, have a good number of green snps indicated. These > are downstream snps from BigY which www.yseq.net will test individually > for > a decent price. > > If your dna haplotype suggests you are close to either of these tree > regions, I recommend ordering some of these downstream snps. In both > these > sectors we are entering the historical or genealogical era. > > If you see ysnps in these trees not yet green but which you think would be > informative for you, ask www.yseq.net if they will add them to their > catalog. Send them y location number (most important) and “name” if it > has > one. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
As Kenneth mentioned this morning, I think most of us are looking forward to testing SNPs entering the historical or genealogical era and, from my correspondence with FTDNA's lab, it's sounding like it's going to be difficult or impossible to get them to list many of those SNPs as individual order SNPs. I haven't heard that any companies are really willing to make an effort at that and do a really good job of it, so I ordered my YSeq sample kit yesterday and it was completely painless and only $8 ($3 kit + $5 shipping): http://shop.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=225 -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:26 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for sale I think it is important to remember that should people choose to test an SNP with Yseq, they need to ask for a sampling kit to be sent to them, then send back a sample for testing. This could take some weeks depending on which country people live. I do not think most people would like their remaining samples at FTDNA to be transferred over to Yseq though I think this is an option that is available, I may be wrong. Also your result at one company is not transferable to another company. I'm not saying don't test with this one or that one or both, just to be aware of possible issues. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > I think you are perhaps missing your coffee this morning? Rules are > not to quote prices. I did not. I do not get royalties from anyone; > I hardly get interest from my bank on savings account. > > If Didier is to intervene, I would think it would be concerning your > highly personalized complaining about me. > > It is an important fact for hobbyists to learn that so far yseq has > given customers test results for ysnps much faster than the other company. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: nicolas.taban > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:01 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps > for sale > > I am sorry but with all respect to both you Ken and Yseq, I feel you > are going too far now. > These messages give me the impression your getting royalties for each > time you write Yseq. > I guess Didier should have already intervened. > > I share your frustration with FTDNA, but please keep to the good hobby > jobb you are otherwise doing. > > Ps: to be complete, may be you should mention that in order to propose > a new SNP to Yseq, one has to pay a 1$ fee. > > > Mvh/Regards > > Nicolas Taban > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > Date:27/05/2014 17:26 (GMT+01:00) > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Two I1 sectors, L338 and Z138, have new snps for > sale > > It is so refreshing to see the quick response time of www.yseq.net so > far for individual ysnp orders. Hope this continues. > FTDNA seems to continue its agonizing long delays in doing ysnp tests > of either kind, individual or group. > > The two BigY trees, “BigYtree-Z138” and “BigYtree-L338 AS1” in I1, > found at my websites link below, have a good number of green snps > indicated. These are downstream snps from BigY which www.yseq.net > will test individually for a decent price. > > If your dna haplotype suggests you are close to either of these tree > regions, I recommend ordering some of these downstream snps. In both > these sectors we are entering the historical or genealogical era. > > If you see ysnps in these trees not yet green but which you think > would be informative for you, ask www.yseq.net if they will add them > to their catalog. Send them y location number (most important) and > “name” if it has one. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message