Weldon, Unfortunately this is FTDNA technical (IT) department fucking around with data. Here are some of the SNPs posted for Braz Z161+, Z162+, Z163+, Z164+, Z165+, Z166+, Z168+, Z170+, Z171+, Z172+, Z174+, Z175+, Z176+, Z177+, Z178+, Z179+, Z180+, Z181+, Z183+, Z184+, Z185+, Z186+, Z187+, Z188+, Z77+, YSC0000207+, YSC0000227+, YSC0000256+, YSC0000272+, F719+, L104+, L132+, Z163+, Z164+, Z165+, Z168+, Z170+, Z174+, Z175+, Z184+, Z185+, Z188+, Z178+, Z179-, Z180-, Z190-, Z63-, Z79-, Z176-, Z166-, L137-, L126-, Z161-, PF3292-, F3878-, F3406-, F3195-, M214-, Z190-, PF4225-, PF6896-, PF6899-, PF6902-, P78-, P95-, L702-, DF5-, CTS7865-, CTS1858-, CTS1977- As you can see he is reported as both Z161+, Z161-, Z166+, Z166-, Z180+, Z180-, Z179+, Z179- and he tested for L1198 back in 2012 but a result now does not even appear. This only happen when the introduced their new Haplotree and did a clean up Geno 2.0 results. Seems conflict appears when one has tested both Geno 2.0 and Big Y as in Braz's case. Big Y seems to misread various SNPs and cannot read indels correctly. We have seen the FTDNA clean up wipe out not only SNPs but also Order History for SNPs. One really starts to lose confidence in that company with so many IT stuff ups. On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Weldon Smith <e2weldon@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > I find the following listed as L1198+ and Z180-: > > 127052 McCall > 260237 Braz > N18172 Fleet > 289551 Goeke > 173448 Norris > > Weldon > > On 5/29/14, 3:14 PM, y-dna-haplogroup-i-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > > Subject: > > Re: [yDNAhgI] Three new SNP's for CTS6433 (Cont2a) (Wayne R. Roberts) > > From: > > "Wayne R. Roberts" <i.m223.roberts@gmail.com> > > Date: > > 5/29/14, 3:09 PM > > > > To: > > y-dna-haplogroup-i <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > Good morning Weldon. > > > > Could you let me know what entries in the spreadsheet show L1198+ and > > Z180-, thanks. > > > > Smeaton is the member that tested Z180+ and L1198- thus showing Z180 is > > upstream of L1198. BTW, Geno 2.0 did not include L1198 and unless people > > have tested for L1198, they will only show Z171, Z185, Z180, Z166, Z187, > > Z190 depending on which were derived. > > > > Wayne > > > > > > To contact the Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I list administrator, send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I mailing list, send an email > to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >