Yes, y-seq is a boon to all of us--I have been trying to spread the word. I'm sorry my group didn't do Big-Y or we would probably be testing new SNPs at y-seq right now. When I don't have something solid to analyze, I tend to start speculating and I confess to a considerable amount of speculation regarding the Britton-Bronson match. Good thing Bronson will soon have 111 markers. I was thinking mainly of standard tests, however, when I sent that e-mail--also thinking that my job as Administrator of a surname project might be easier if all Brittons were under one roof so to speak. Lindsey PS I believe this is the second time that Ancestry has withdrawn from Y-DNA testing. Y-seq may be getting so many requests as a result of Big-Y that it's hard to keep up with demand. ************************ There is www.yseq.net who will do y snps that customers find downstream in the tree and request. Prices are decent. So hopefully we will not be down to one in a total sense. My initial experience was that they produced quick response times for tests, but at the moment I am with surprise waiting for some key test results from them. Since the pending BigY test list is rather skimpy, future progress in downstream tree development will require many people ordering as individual snps those relevant to their location in the tree and previously found in BigY or other full y genome products. Kenneth Nordtvedt