Thanks Ken Being a none scientist the way that FTDNA appears to be presenting the BigY results is meaningless to the layman. When bigY came out the general recommendation was it would only be meaningful if someone close to you also did the test for comparisons.. I sent out a few emails at the time to AS2 people but got no response, so nothing appears to have changed and going by the posts on this site there's some frustration with FTDNA. I took the the S2677 test based on I believe your recommendation a few months ago and based on what Obed said based on my result it looks like there may be another choice of S2293 which appears at 2 levels before you get to S5619. Guys like me need people like you who are willing to share your knowledge. You are appreciated Thank You Ray Jenkins I1- AS2, Z138+/Z139+ Z2541- > FTDNA Kit#186150, > Ysearch AETEN -------Original Message------- From: Kenneth Nordtvedt Date: 06/14/14 20:11:21 To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] S6277 at yseq There is much more information to gain from the BigY test I would think. My bigY tree includes only the novel variants. And as of the present no AS2 Has done the BigY. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Ray Jenkins Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:06 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] S6277 at yseq Obed I haven't tested with Yseq before so it may be a while before I get my test Kit and we get a result. I take it that S5619 was found in the Chromo2 test because it only shows That branch on KN's Chromo chart and not on his BigY chart. I've been debating which of the 2 tests would personally benefit me the most I know they are close in price at the moment but being British (but living In Canada) I am leaning towards the Chromo2 test Thank you. Ray Jenkins -------Original Message------- From: Obed W Odom Date: 06/14/14 19:15:16 To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] S6277 at yseq Ray, if you turn out to be negative for S6277, you might want to test for S5619/FGC3500 at YSEQ. I am negative for S6277 but positive for S5619/FGC3500. It seems that the latter SNP will be positive for Z138+ Z2541- cluster AS1414, but it could be a little upstream of AS1414. Two Members of AS1414, including myself, are known to be positive for S5619/FGC3500, but 2 other Z138+ individuals of unknown cluster were also Shown to be positive for it in the Chromo2 test. On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Ray Jenkins <ray-jenkins@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi > I just ordered S6277 from Yseq > > Ray Jenkins > I1- AS2, Z138+/Z139+ Z2541- > FTDNA Kit#186150, > Ysearch AETEN > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3480 / Virus Database: 3955/7677 - Release Date: 06/14/14 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without The quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3480 / Virus Database: 3955/7678 - Release Date: 06/14/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3480 / Virus Database: 3955/7678 - Release Date: 06/14/14 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without The quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3480 / Virus Database: 3955/7678 - Release Date: 06/14/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3480 / Virus Database: 3955/7678 - Release Date: 06/14/14