What are some of the points where Wade is completely wrong? I'll keep my eye out for them as I read further through his book. I sensed last night from the look on Charlie Rose's face and his overall body language as he interviewed Wade that there would be some strong reactions to the recommendation to read the book from some circles. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Kennett Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 2:55 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Recommended Book Someone can be provocative and interesting but still be completely wrong. I'd rather not let someone like Nicholas Wade have my money. If his theories have any credibility he would be publishing in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Kimel Sent: 28 June 2014 21:52 To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Recommended Book Wade's book is interesting because it is so provocative. Read it and make your own judgement, rather than listen to what some guru says. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From what I understand the central thesis of Wade's book is that there is a "biological" basis for "race" when in fact genetics shows us the complete opposite. The book is essentially storytelling not science. The author is a journalist not an academic scientist. Try reading this paper "Human Races: Classifying People vs Understanding Diversity" by Guido Barbujani: http://www2.webmatic.it/workO/s/113/pr-465-file_it-Current%20Genomics%204.pd f Who's Charlie Rose? Debbie -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: 28 June 2014 22:11 To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Recommended Book What are some of the points where Wade is completely wrong? I'll keep my eye out for them as I read further through his book. I sensed last night from the look on Charlie Rose's face and his overall body language as he interviewed Wade that there would be some strong reactions to the recommendation to read the book from some circles. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net

If we depended on academicians, we would still be reading Margaret Meads' "Coming of Age in Samoa", and Stephen J. Gould's "The Mismeasure of Man, " both of which were complete scientific frauds. As I say, read Wade's book yourself, and make your own judgement. Dan s On 6/28/2014 5:21 PM, Debbie Kennett wrote: > >From what I understand the central thesis of Wade's book is that there is a > "biological" basis for "race" when in fact genetics shows us the complete > opposite. The book is essentially storytelling not science. The author is a > journalist not an academic scientist. > > Try reading this paper "Human Races: Classifying People vs Understanding > Diversity" by Guido Barbujani: > > http://www2.webmatic.it/workO/s/113/pr-465-file_it-Current%20Genomics%204.pd > f > > Who's Charlie Rose? > > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth > Nordtvedt > Sent: 28 June 2014 22:11 > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Recommended Book > > What are some of the points where Wade is completely wrong? I'll keep my > eye out for them as I read further through his book. > > I sensed last night from the look on Charlie Rose's face and his overall > body language as he interviewed Wade that there would be some strong > reactions to the recommendation to read the book from some circles. > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not familiar with either of those books but they are somewhat irrelevant. The point remains that science is advanced by publication in peer-reviewed scientific journals not by publishing books. I will reserve judgement on Nicholas Wade until such time as he is able to publish his "research" in a legitimate scientific journal but I'm not going to waste my time reading his pseudoscientific book. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Kimel Sent: 28 June 2014 22:52 To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Recommended Book If we depended on academicians, we would still be reading Margaret Meads' "Coming of Age in Samoa", and Stephen J. Gould's "The Mismeasure of Man, " both of which were complete scientific frauds. As I say, read Wade's book yourself, and make your own judgement. Dan