http://www.familytreedna.com/public/GillespieDNAProject/default.aspx?section=ycolorized I2a M223>M284>L1195>L369/L137/L126 Isles-Scot, Kittler 16-15 (Grp 1) The Gillespie Isles-Scot kits have DYS460 results of the usual 11, but also 7, 10 & 12. One ancestral line with two testees has one kit with DYS460 = 10 and the other is DYS460=7. Not all of the Gillespie kits in this subgroup have been joined to the Hap I project. Do you want all of them? Connie McKenzie - Gillespie DNA Project Volunteer Admin =============================================================== You did not mention the most unusual or rare feature of your Isles-Scot  L126+ haplotype.  DYS640=8 I have never seen before.  Standard value is 11 for this clade. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: BowesSurnames Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 8:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yDNAhgI] DYS425=Null in FTDNA I2b1 This occurs in one of my Bowes light blue groups, Scotland to Ireland. One has a 0 and the other simply shows an empty spot. Should that be 0 also? Do I need to have FTDNA rerun it? Is this unique or meaningful in any way? http://www.familytreedna.com/public/bowes/default.aspx?section=yresults Thanks in advance, Martha Bowes