AS3 is a large population clade. It is Z382+ Someone from AS3 some time ago found two new snps in his Geno2 results --- CTS2729 and CTS8649. These snps should be being tested by AS3 folks to see how much of AS3 is derived for them. I know of a couple negatives from other Geno2 tests, so AS3 is surely split. But first if you are AS3 you may have to request FTDNA to add these snps to their catalog if they are not yet there. So try to order these snps. If the catalog says they are not part of the product line, then request FTDNA to add them to catalog. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net