Ordered L1439. Decided not to wait to see if my results from BigY will include it and that it might be useful to our hobby. JB McCrummen FTDNA kit: 75432. DF29* -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [yDNAhgI] L1439 moves upstream but....... From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <[1][email protected]> Date: Sun, January 19, 2014 11:09 am To: <[2][email protected]> A Z131+ shows L1439+ moving this latter snp far upstream. But we are not done yet. There is quite a population of DF29- Z131-, and this includes two clades, AS1212 and AS121210, a cluster, and some generics. All DF29- Z131- generics should test for L1439. A representative from both clades, AS1212 and AS121210, should test for L1439, and a member of the cluster which includes Bowman, kit 194611, Nevader, and Grahm should test for L1439. See the updated âTree for I1xZ58xL22â for the far upstream part of the I1 Tree and the still questionable node structure. I notice one of the generic DF29- Z131- has ordered L1439 which is good. But the other two generics should probably test as well; there is no clue or hint yet where they branch off the main I1 tree, upstream or downstream of L1439? Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: [3]http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/
I show you DF29+. If so you might consider canceling your order. We had a L1439+ from a Z131+ today, and branch to Z131 leaves the tree upstream of DF29. I'm truly sorry my earlier message meant for private party mistakenly got sent public. But I had to vent. For years FTDNA has kept this ordering system for individual snps obscure even though often told about the confusion they produced. The count of times that new snp customers needed to be redirected to the right place to order individual snps is in the hundreds for sure. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: JB McCrummen Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] L1439 moves upstream but....... Ordered L1439. Decided not to wait to see if my results from BigY will include it and that it might be useful to our hobby. JB McCrummen FTDNA kit: 75432. DF29* -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [yDNAhgI] L1439 moves upstream but....... From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <[1][email protected]> Date: Sun, January 19, 2014 11:09 am To: <[2][email protected]> A Z131+ shows L1439+ moving this latter snp far upstream. But we are not done yet. There is quite a population of DF29- Z131-, and this includes two clades, AS1212 and AS121210, a cluster, and some generics. All DF29- Z131- generics should test for L1439. A representative from both clades, AS1212 and AS121210, should test for L1439, and a member of the cluster which includes Bowman, kit 194611, Nevader, and Grahm should test for L1439. See the updated âTree for I1xZ58xL22â for the far upstream part of the I1 Tree and the still questionable node structure. I notice one of the generic DF29- Z131- has ordered L1439 which is good. But the other two generics should probably test as well; there is no clue or hint yet where they branch off the main I1 tree, upstream or downstream of L1439? Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: [3]http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message