Here's the link to the actual *Nature *article: http://www.nbcnews.com/science/dark-skin-blue-eyes-genes-paint-picture-7-000-year-2D11996418 T.J. White On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Matthew Simonds <[email protected]>wrote: > > Here's an interesting quote from an article in the Guardian: > "The Spanish team went on to compare the genome of the hunter-gatherer to > those of modern Europeans from different regions to see how they might be > related. They found that the ancient DNA most closely matched the genetic > makeup of people living in northern Europe, in particular Sweden and > Finland." > > http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/26/swarthy-blue-eyed-caveman-dna-tooth > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:37:25 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > > > > > Finding haplogroup C or it's subclades of C5 or C6 in Spain 7000 years > ago does seem odd. According to Wikipedia, "This was probably at least > 60,000 years before present. Although Haplogroup C-M130 attains its highest > frequencies among the indigenous populations of Mongolia, the Russian Far > East, Plynesia, Australia, and at moderate frequency in the Korean > Peninsula and among the Manchus, it displays high diversity among modern > populations of India...Haplogroup C5 has been detected with low frequency > in samples from India, Nepal, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Arabia, and northern > China. > > However, it says about C6 (C-V20) : "Found with low frequency in > Europeans." > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:06:40 -0700 > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > > > > > Is not the "heartland" of haplogroup C in the far east? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Peterson, Phillip R. > > > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:50 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > > > > > The preprint is available at > > > > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature12960.html - > > > from the supplemental material, La Braña 1 appears to belong to > haplogroup > > > C6, though based on a single SNP, as he was ancestral for the other > > > C6-equivalent SNPs. They didn't get a read on the SNP that defines C5 > as > > > well. So he could be C6, maybe C5, and maybe C(xC6). > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165

Looking at some of what has been written about C6 (C-V20) on the Internet, some people have said that the C subclade closest to it is Japanese C1 (C-M8). That's amazing that these two would be so very far apart. Matthew > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:44:19 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > Here's the link to the actual *Nature *article: > http://www.nbcnews.com/science/dark-skin-blue-eyes-genes-paint-picture-7-000-year-2D11996418 > > T.J. White > > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Matthew Simonds <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Here's an interesting quote from an article in the Guardian: > > "The Spanish team went on to compare the genome of the hunter-gatherer to > > those of modern Europeans from different regions to see how they might be > > related. They found that the ancient DNA most closely matched the genetic > > makeup of people living in northern Europe, in particular Sweden and > > Finland." > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jan/26/swarthy-blue-eyed-caveman-dna-tooth > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:37:25 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > > > > > > > > Finding haplogroup C or it's subclades of C5 or C6 in Spain 7000 years > > ago does seem odd. According to Wikipedia, "This was probably at least > > 60,000 years before present. Although Haplogroup C-M130 attains its highest > > frequencies among the indigenous populations of Mongolia, the Russian Far > > East, Plynesia, Australia, and at moderate frequency in the Korean > > Peninsula and among the Manchus, it displays high diversity among modern > > populations of India...Haplogroup C5 has been detected with low frequency > > in samples from India, Nepal, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Arabia, and northern > > China. > > > However, it says about C6 (C-V20) : "Found with low frequency in > > Europeans." > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:06:40 -0700 > > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > > > > > > > Is not the "heartland" of haplogroup C in the far east? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Peterson, Phillip R. > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:50 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 7000 year old La Brana bones > > > > > > > > The preprint is available at > > > > > > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature12960.html - > > > > from the supplemental material, La Braña 1 appears to belong to > > haplogroup > > > > C6, though based on a single SNP, as he was ancestral for the other > > > > C6-equivalent SNPs. They didn't get a read on the SNP that defines C5 > > as > > > > well. So he could be C6, maybe C5, and maybe C(xC6). > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." > > Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message