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    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable
    2. Wayne R. Roberts

    3. Jesatko has the DYS439=10 On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Scott E. Stewart <[email protected]>wrote: > Jesatko has a high DYS 385a for Z161*, more like that of the L701 Sector, > but 37 markers should tell: > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne R. > Roberts > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 5:39 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > Waiting on 37 marker upgrade for Jesatko. What about the others in this > Z161 cluster? Do they separate into three subgroups? > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Probably too early to say who Jesatko belongs with. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne R. Roberts > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:16 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > > > Do you see Vella, Membrana & Micallef as a Mediterranean subgroup, > > then Jesatko, Perkins & Rogers as another subgroup and then Macmillan, > > McMillan, Tanner, McPhee and Cameron as a Scottish subgroup? > > > > What age estimates do you have for this cluster's founder and subgroup > > founders? > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Vella peels off 1800 years b.p. from rest of the McMillan group in > > > M223 Tree. > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/04/2014 04:09:23
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable
    2. Kenneth Nordtvedt

    3. Almost the whole population has 10 at 439. So that marker does not help say whether Jesatko is member of a specific subgroup of the population. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 6:09 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable Jesatko has the DYS439=10 On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Scott E. Stewart <[email protected]>wrote: > Jesatko has a high DYS 385a for Z161*, more like that of the L701 Sector, > but 37 markers should tell: > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne R. > Roberts > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 5:39 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > Waiting on 37 marker upgrade for Jesatko. What about the others in this > Z161 cluster? Do they separate into three subgroups? > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Probably too early to say who Jesatko belongs with. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne R. Roberts > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:16 PM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > > > Do you see Vella, Membrana & Micallef as a Mediterranean subgroup, > > then Jesatko, Perkins & Rogers as another subgroup and then Macmillan, > > McMillan, Tanner, McPhee and Cameron as a Scottish subgroup? > > > > What age estimates do you have for this cluster's founder and subgroup > > founders? > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Vella peels off 1800 years b.p. from rest of the McMillan group in > > > M223 Tree. > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/03/2014 11:20:23
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable
    2. Wayne R. Roberts

    3. According to the M223 Project results page the vast majority of members have 439=11 or 12. DYS439=10 in combination with some other markers like DYS392=13, seems to be a characteristic of this Z161* Vella-McMillan group. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <[email protected]>wrote: > Almost the whole population has 10 at 439. So that marker does not help > say whether Jesatko is member of a specific subgroup of the population. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne R. Roberts > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 6:09 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > Jesatko has the DYS439=10 > > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Scott E. Stewart > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Jesatko has a high DYS 385a for Z161*, more like that of the L701 Sector, > > but 37 markers should tell: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne R. > > Roberts > > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 5:39 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > > > Waiting on 37 marker upgrade for Jesatko. What about the others in this > > Z161 cluster? Do they separate into three subgroups? > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Probably too early to say who Jesatko belongs with. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wayne R. Roberts > > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:16 PM > > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Believable > > > > > > Do you see Vella, Membrana & Micallef as a Mediterranean subgroup, > > > then Jesatko, Perkins & Rogers as another subgroup and then Macmillan, > > > McMillan, Tanner, McPhee and Cameron as a Scottish subgroup? > > > > > > What age estimates do you have for this cluster's founder and subgroup > > > founders? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Vella peels off 1800 years b.p. from rest of the McMillan group in > > > > M223 Tree. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/04/2014 04:51:04