I have your haplotype classified as a generic within its snp specifications. I see no clade or cluster to which it belongs. While the 1-37 markers are remarkably normal, the 38-67 include the rare 13 at 425 and 30 at 481? Is that your haplotype? While 587=19 is a small minority of haplotypes in I1, it is not super rare, so by itself it can't be used for classification. Where are his 68-111 marker values to be seen? Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Carol Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:35 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree Kenneth I have a query about your 'I1xL22xZ58 Tree'. After L69 you have a branch to AS161616 and another to MAV11 before M227. As my husband ( FTDNA 267833 ) falls into the gap between, being L69+ and M227-, I was wondering what it was that defined those two branches. I am probably missing something obvious but I can't see anything that indicates what they are? His 11 marker result is now nearly through and I think there might be a couple more unusual values there, for example DYS587=19 - does that mean anything specific? or is it just another indication he's odd :-) ! Carol Gilbert [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes thats him. But what actually is it that defines AS161616 and MAV11? I've asked several people and never received an answer as to what they are. Carol Gilbert [email protected] On 15 Jan 2014, at 18:54, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > I have your haplotype classified as a generic within its snp specifications. > I see no clade or cluster to which it belongs. > > While the 1-37 markers are remarkably normal, the 38-67 include the rare 13 > at 425 and 30 at 481? Is that your haplotype? > > While 587=19 is a small minority of haplotypes in I1, it is not super rare, > so by itself it can't be used for classification. > > Where are his 68-111 marker values to be seen? > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:35 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree > > Kenneth I have a query about your 'I1xL22xZ58 Tree'. > > After L69 you have a branch to AS161616 and another to MAV11 before M227. As > my husband ( FTDNA 267833 ) falls into the gap between, being L69+ and > M227-, I was wondering what it was that defined those two branches. I am > probably missing something obvious but I can't see anything that indicates > what they are? > > His 11 marker result is now nearly through and I think there might be a > couple more unusual values there, for example DYS587=19 - does that mean > anything specific? or is it just another indication he's odd :-) ! > > Carol Gilbert > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can't find those characteristics in "I1 Modalities" file in my website? Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Carol Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree Yes thats him. But what actually is it that defines AS161616 and MAV11? I've asked several people and never received an answer as to what they are. Carol Gilbert [email protected] On 15 Jan 2014, at 18:54, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > I have your haplotype classified as a generic within its snp > specifications. > I see no clade or cluster to which it belongs. > > While the 1-37 markers are remarkably normal, the 38-67 include the rare > 13 > at 425 and 30 at 481? Is that your haplotype? > > While 587=19 is a small minority of haplotypes in I1, it is not super > rare, > so by itself it can't be used for classification. > > Where are his 68-111 marker values to be seen? > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:35 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree > > Kenneth I have a query about your 'I1xL22xZ58 Tree'. > > After L69 you have a branch to AS161616 and another to MAV11 before M227. > As > my husband ( FTDNA 267833 ) falls into the gap between, being L69+ and > M227-, I was wondering what it was that defined those two branches. I am > probably missing something obvious but I can't see anything that indicates > what they are? > > His 11 marker result is now nearly through and I think there might be a > couple more unusual values there, for example DYS587=19 - does that mean > anything specific? or is it just another indication he's odd :-) ! > > Carol Gilbert > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message