If you view tonight’s update of the “Tree for L161” you’ll see a modification where branch line to Isles-C and Isles-D clades leaves the line to Isles-B4. This results from another L161 Chromo2 set of positives released, but still lacking the full raw data file. The snps derived for B4 but ancestral for Collier are now split between some derived for the new Isles-D2 result and some ancestral for the new Isles-D2 result. This could be modified a bit when the full raw data file can be examined. And we will then also have a list of new snps derived for the Isles-D2 line, but ancestral for others. No Chromo2 raw data has emerged for several weeks now, so we do with what we get. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net