Mav is in blue background; AS161616 is the bottommost with the rose background. I don't think your haplotype fits either clade. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Carol Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree Is it in the purple bit - I can't read the writing in that bit! Eyesight not brilliant and black on puple doesn't contrast enough to see. Carol Gilbert [email protected] On 15 Jan 2014, at 20:55, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > You can't find those characteristics in "I1 Modalities" file in my > website? > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree > > Yes thats him. > > But what actually is it that defines AS161616 and MAV11? I've asked > several > people and never received an answer as to what they are. > > Carol Gilbert > [email protected] > > > > > > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 18:54, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > >> I have your haplotype classified as a generic within its snp >> specifications. >> I see no clade or cluster to which it belongs. >> >> While the 1-37 markers are remarkably normal, the 38-67 include the rare >> 13 >> at 425 and 30 at 481? Is that your haplotype? >> >> While 587=19 is a small minority of haplotypes in I1, it is not super >> rare, >> so by itself it can't be used for classification. >> >> Where are his 68-111 marker values to be seen? >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carol Gilbert >> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:35 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i >> Subject: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree >> >> Kenneth I have a query about your 'I1xL22xZ58 Tree'. >> >> After L69 you have a branch to AS161616 and another to MAV11 before M227. >> As >> my husband ( FTDNA 267833 ) falls into the gap between, being L69+ and >> M227-, I was wondering what it was that defined those two branches. I am >> probably missing something obvious but I can't see anything that >> indicates >> what they are? >> >> His 11 marker result is now nearly through and I think there might be a >> couple more unusual values there, for example DYS587=19 - does that mean >> anything specific? or is it just another indication he's odd :-) ! >> >> Carol Gilbert >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank-you. No it doesn't seem to fit anywhere at all! I always knew he was a one off! Carol Gilbert [email protected] On 15 Jan 2014, at 21:16, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > Mav is in blue background; AS161616 is the bottommost with the rose > background. I don't think your haplotype fits either clade. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Gilbert > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree > > Is it in the purple bit - I can't read the writing in that bit! Eyesight not > brilliant and black on puple doesn't contrast enough to see. > > Carol Gilbert > [email protected] > > > > > > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 20:55, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > >> You can't find those characteristics in "I1 Modalities" file in my >> website? >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carol Gilbert >> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree >> >> Yes thats him. >> >> But what actually is it that defines AS161616 and MAV11? I've asked >> several >> people and never received an answer as to what they are. >> >> Carol Gilbert >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 15 Jan 2014, at 18:54, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: >> >>> I have your haplotype classified as a generic within its snp >>> specifications. >>> I see no clade or cluster to which it belongs. >>> >>> While the 1-37 markers are remarkably normal, the 38-67 include the rare >>> 13 >>> at 425 and 30 at 481? Is that your haplotype? >>> >>> While 587=19 is a small minority of haplotypes in I1, it is not super >>> rare, >>> so by itself it can't be used for classification. >>> >>> Where are his 68-111 marker values to be seen? >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Carol Gilbert >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 11:35 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i >>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] A query re Ken's I1xL22xZ58 Tree >>> >>> Kenneth I have a query about your 'I1xL22xZ58 Tree'. >>> >>> After L69 you have a branch to AS161616 and another to MAV11 before M227. >>> As >>> my husband ( FTDNA 267833 ) falls into the gap between, being L69+ and >>> M227-, I was wondering what it was that defined those two branches. I am >>> probably missing something obvious but I can't see anything that >>> indicates >>> what they are? >>> >>> His 11 marker result is now nearly through and I think there might be a >>> couple more unusual values there, for example DYS587=19 - does that mean >>> anything specific? or is it just another indication he's odd :-) ! >>> >>> Carol Gilbert >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message