Diana created a very useful page with Ken's modals but most of the page is now blank for me: http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/Hg-I-subclades-FTDNA-order.html I know Diana's page and Ken's excel file which she based her page on are both outdated, but I still think they are useful. Is there any place to find the modals currently? Bernie

The primary purpose of my page was to put the markers in FTDNA order because Ken had them in numerical order in his spreadsheet, which made them difficult for FTDNA project admins and members to use them. Once Ken took his spreadsheet offline, my table became increasingly out-of-date. I had intended to take the page offline, eventually, but I got some criticism for its being out of date, so I decided to be done with it. In fact, now that the Haplogroup I project is subgrouping members by Ken's clusters and you can get the modals from the table, already in FTDNA marker order, there is really no further need for my table, especially as my table was 67+9 markers, not 111. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/yDNA_I1/default.aspx?section=ycolo rized Considering how much work it would have been to convert the 67+9 chart to 111 markers, and how much more difficult it would be to keep up to date - because now it's not just a matter of copying the values from Ken's spreadsheet - I decided I just wasn't willing to spend the time and effort needed to keep the table up-to-date. Sorry. Diana > From: Bernie Cullen > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:01 PM > > Diana created a very useful page with Ken's modals but most > of the page is now blank for me: > http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/Hg-I-subclades-FTDNA-order.html > > I know Diana's page and Ken's excel file which she based her > page on are both outdated, but I still think they are useful. > Is there any place to find the modals currently? > > Bernie