Hello Ken,   Can you please check, if I'm a right person for L380 test as a basic I1d?   FTDNA kit: N93850 Y-search: TEKVZ   Thanks, Taras   ________________________________ From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: [yDNAhgI] L380 for BASIC I1d A snp L380, in the FTDNA catalog, has been found derived in an I1d1 P109+ and in a uN2 I1d which actually now has its own downstream snp.  I see two more tests ordered, but for another P109+ and another uN2 I1d.  That’s fine for confirming the first observations. But we need a basic garden variety I1d L22+ not part of those two clade/haplogroups to order L380.  We want to find how widespread is L380.  Perhaps a Bothnian I1d3 should test L380? I see about 10 I1xL22 negative for L380.  So L380 seems to have happened just before or just after L22 on some branch line.  I hope we can find a difference between L380 and L22. Ken ________________________________