Here's what Ken says about the new discoveries. -- Aaron From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> According to 1000 Genomes, these snps are all upstream sufficiently that they include all of L22, probably all of I1 in many cases, and all of haplogroup I in some cases.   Remember, these snps are apparently from brand new regions of the Y in the WTY coverage.   L841 to L848 were originally found in an L338+ private WTY according to Dr Krahn   So if they come into the catalog, people should be very careful in deciding to spend money on testing them.   From: Yme Drost Subject: new SNP's in haplogroup I1d1 P109+   WTY news! In the WTY project they discovered nine new SNP’s in the I1d1 haplogroup (P109+): L840 ChrY 19294091 19294091 C to G; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L841 ChrY 12581004 12581004 T to A; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L842 ChrY 14902101 14902101 G to T; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L843 ChrY 21712678 21712678 A to G; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L844 ChrY 2944029 2944029 T to C; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L845 ChrY 7712844 7712844 T to G; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L846 ChrY 7916500 7916500 C to T; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L847 ChrY 21563422 21563422 C to T; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant L848 ChrY 21711505 21711505 C to G; Found in a hg I-P109 WTY participant The new SNP’s are discovered in kit# 159230 from William Matthew Thornton (England) . Yme Drost