3) has been done On Fre, November 11, 2011 03:07, K S Harris wrote: > Hi Ken and all, > > > > I can order the L840 if that's most effective. I would meet #4 below, but > NOT #s 1, 2 & 3. > > > > (I see someone with #2 is on board.) > > > > My genotype is positive for Z63, P30, and M253, and negative for Z131, > P259, P109, M227, M21, L338, and L22. > > > > Keith > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth > Nordtvedt > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:49 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] L840 and P109+I1d1 > > > > SNP L840 was discovered in the WTY of a P109+ I1d1 person; and it is now in > the FTDNA catalog. > > > > But information from 1000 Genomes suggests L840 may be far upstream in the Y > Tree and common to all of I1? So a thought out testing of L840 is called > for --- both far downstream private-like and far upstream location for this > new snp have to be checked for. 1000 Genomes has been wrong before on their > suggested haplogroup I snp-based phylogeny, but we need to take their > information into account or we waste lots of money and time. > > > > I would recommend four different kinds of initial tests on L840. > > > > 1) Someone from the 455 = 9 YCAb=20 cluster within P109+ but not relative > of known L840+ > > 2) someone from P109+ but NOT in the 455=9 cluster > > 3) Someone from L22+ but known P109- > > 4) Someone from I1 but NOT L22+ > > > > Ken > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com> > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >