There is no 385 = 9,14 in the entire I1 Project. There is one 385 = 9,14 I1 in Ysearch, but it does not have the 13 at 456 or the high 389, and it is 15 at DYS19. So the sketchy Z131+ haplotype that 1000 Genomes has shown does not really help us find more. I am sort of hoping I1-P will remain I1* What are your bets on it? -----Original Message----- From: Marek Skarbek Kozietulski Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:30 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Z131+ Probably nobody among the FTDNA tested individuals had the Z131+ until now. I have found that an STR haplotype of one of the three Genome 1000 tested people with Z131+ was already published on the DNA Forums Haplogroup I1 http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/topic/15714-z58-and-z63-under-i1-confirmed/ page__st__-20__p__26#entry26 , and earlier in an article http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0004684 I have uploaded the STR haplotype here http://medievalgenealogy.republika.pl/Z131+.PNG . This is rather an untypical haplotype. The subclade predictor shows: I-M253-1313 =>30% I-M253-EE =>30% I-M253-AS10 =>29% I belong to the subclade I1-P (I1-ASP), and we already have Z58- and Z63- in our subclade. We are just waiting on Z131 with the hope that finally this SNP will be positive for us. Nevertheless, the mentioned STR haplotype seems to be very distant from our subclade. Best, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

< There is no 385 = 9,14 in the entire I1 Project. > I agree. I have also no one similar case in my database (Continental Europe). < I am sort of hoping I1-P will remain I1*. What are your bets on it?> I have similar view. Best, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:29 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Z131+ There is no 385 = 9,14 in the entire I1 Project. There is one 385 = 9,14 I1 in Ysearch, but it does not have the 13 at 456 or the high 389, and it is 15 at DYS19. So the sketchy Z131+ haplotype that 1000 Genomes has shown does not really help us find more. I am sort of hoping I1-P will remain I1* What are your bets on it? -----Original Message----- From: Marek Skarbek Kozietulski Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:30 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Z131+ Probably nobody among the FTDNA tested individuals had the Z131+ until now. I have found that an STR haplotype of one of the three Genome 1000 tested people with Z131+ was already published on the DNA Forums Haplogroup I1 http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/topic/15714-z58-and-z63-under-i1-confirmed/ page__st__-20__p__26#entry26 , and earlier in an article http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0004684 I have uploaded the STR haplotype here http://medievalgenealogy.republika.pl/Z131+.PNG . This is rather an untypical haplotype. The subclade predictor shows: I-M253-1313 =>30% I-M253-EE =>30% I-M253-AS10 =>29% I belong to the subclade I1-P (I1-ASP), and we already have Z58- and Z63- in our subclade. We are just waiting on Z131 with the hope that finally this SNP will be positive for us. Nevertheless, the mentioned STR haplotype seems to be very distant from our subclade. Best, Marek Skarbek Kozietulski ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2101/4634 - Release Date: 11/23/11