Ken Could it be of any value for any of the old I2* people testing any of these three older timeline SNPs Bob I2*, ISOGG new I2b, I2c DNA Project Tyler Family DNA Project Genealogy Sunshine Coast ISOGG Papers/Presentations Cited A Fair Deal for Members of the Dafence and Ex Service Community Resgstore the Parity with CENTRELINK and other DVA Pensions that the ALP Govt stole from Disabled Veterans's Disability Payment The march to CANBERRA has begun. Will YOU join us? -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:13 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] L841-L848 Many thanks. This could save lots of redundant tests. Ken -----Original Message----- From: G. Magoon Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:32 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] L841-L848 Here's my analysis of L841-L848 based on 1000 Genomes Project data: L841: build 37 position 14071004; Z131 and DF29 seem to be L841+; I2 seems to be L841-, so I expect it to be approx. with M253 et al. L842: build 37 position 16392707; Z131 and DF29 seem to be L842+; I2 seems to be L842-, so I expect it to be approx. with M253 et al. L843: build 37 position 23303290; Z131 and DF29 seem to be L843+; I2 seems to be L843-, so I expect it to be approx. with M253 et al. L844: build 37 position 2884029; Z131 and DF29 and I2 all seem to be L844+ (though some of the results are somewhat ambiguous...probably in a region that is similar to other parts of the genome, causing read mapping issues); I haven't looked at others like Hg-J samples to see how far back this may be L845: build 37 position 7652844; Z131 and DF29 seem to be L845+; I2 seems to be L845-, so I expect it to be approx. with M253 et al. L846: build 37 position 7856500; Z131 and DF29 and I2 all seem to be L846+; I haven't looked at others like Hg-J samples to see how far back this may be L847: build 37 position 23154034; Z131 and DF29 and I2 all seem to be L847+; I haven't looked at others like Hg-J samples to see how far back this may be; (for some reason this site wasn't listed in my multi-sample VCF file for Hg-I, possibly due to excessive read depth, but it was called as a variant in many of my single-sample VCF files) L848: build 37 position 23302117; Z131 and DF29 seem to be L848+; I2 seems to be L848-, so I expect it to be approx. with M253 et al. So, in summary, it looks like five are approximately with M253 et al., while three (L844, L846, and L847) are older. On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: G. Magoon > I took a quick look at the 1000 Genomes Project data at this site (build > 37 > position 20834703), and it suggests that L840 is likely approximately with > the SNPs (like M253) that define I1 (i.e. upstream of L22, Z58, Z63, Z131, > DF29). I2 samples seem to be L840-. > > [[While I don't know what terms like "suggest" and "likely approximately" > mean in the context of your message, the new WTY from L22+ is said to be > derived for L841 to L848 as well. > > L841 to L848 were previously seen in a L22- L338+ person's private > unpublished WTY according to FTDNA; that's why the recent public WTY does > not call L841 to L848 "new" snps. What does 1000 Genomes data suggest > with > regard to these snps? > > Upstream or downstream from Z131 and DF29? > > Ken ]] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message