I have been involved in recruiting several related people who are MS253-AS4--most of them have done 67 markers, but none have gone for 111. The results confirmed for us the relationship between 3 lines that we couldn't connect using genealogical/historical records. These are families that are Welsh in origin, but whose documentation is limited to Ireland--one of the lines documented in Ireland back to the 1600s--the other two to the 1700s and 1800s. Would you advise getting some of them to get the extended results? I note that the AS4 group hasn't been getting much attention in the discussion lately. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com>; <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: [yDNAhgI] 68-111 over the cliff? >I have noticed a strong drop in rate of haplogroup I people who are >expanding haplotypes to 111 markers? Anybody have any theory why?

I try to collect all haplogroup I 68-111 extensions, and I can't see an AS4 in my collection. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Haggerty Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 1:54 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 68-111 over the cliff? I have been involved in recruiting several related people who are MS253-AS4--most of them have done 67 markers, but none have gone for 111. The results confirmed for us the relationship between 3 lines that we couldn't connect using genealogical/historical records. These are families that are Welsh in origin, but whose documentation is limited to Ireland--one of the lines documented in Ireland back to the 1600s--the other two to the 1700s and 1800s. Would you advise getting some of them to get the extended results? I note that the AS4 group hasn't been getting much attention in the discussion lately. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com>; <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: [yDNAhgI] 68-111 over the cliff? >I have noticed a strong drop in rate of haplogroup I people who are >expanding haplotypes to 111 markers? Anybody have any theory why? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK--I just ordered a 68-111 extension for one AS4 participant--Family Tree Kit # 192491 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 68-111 over the cliff? >I try to collect all haplogroup I 68-111 extensions, and I can't see an AS4 > in my collection. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Haggerty > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 1:54 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] 68-111 over the cliff? > > I have been involved in recruiting several related people who are > MS253-AS4--most of them have done 67 markers, but none have gone for 111. > The results confirmed for us the relationship between 3 lines that we > couldn't connect using genealogical/historical records. These are families > that are Welsh in origin, but whose documentation is limited to > Ireland--one > of the lines documented in Ireland back to the 1600s--the other two to the > 1700s and 1800s. Would you advise getting some of them to get the extended > results? I note that the AS4 group hasn't been getting much attention in > the > discussion lately. > > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com>; <genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 12:08 PM > Subject: [yDNAhgI] 68-111 over the cliff? > > >>I have noticed a strong drop in rate of haplogroup I people who are >>expanding haplotypes to 111 markers? Anybody have any theory why? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >