Ken, thanks for advice. I ordered L380 tonight.   =Taras=   ________________________________ From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: T T <enskada@yahoo.com>; y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] L380 for BASIC I1d Because you have such an unusual L22+, I would suggest the L380 test. Ken -----Original Message----- From: T T Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:17 AM To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] L380 for BASIC I1d Hello Ken, Can you please check, if I'm a right person for L380 test as a basic I1d? FTDNA kit: N93850 Y-search: TEKVZ Thanks, Taras ________________________________ From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com, genealogy-dna@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: [yDNAhgI] L380 for BASIC I1d A snp L380, in the FTDNA catalog, has been found derived in an I1d1 P109+ and in a uN2 I1d which actually now has its own downstream snp.  I see two more tests ordered, but for another P109+ and another uN2 I1d.  That’s fine for confirming the first observations. But we need a basic garden variety I1d L22+ not part of those two clade/haplogroups to order L380.  We want to find how widespread is L380. Perhaps a Bothnian I1d3 should test L380? I see about 10 I1xL22 negative for L380.  So L380 seems to have happened just before or just after L22 on some branch line.  I hope we can find a difference between L380 and L22. Ken ________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message