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    1. [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today?
    2. 2 weeks ago L813 was found derived in a WTY for kit 180647. He is uN2 from Denmark and today another uN2 from Norway was found derived for L813. A P109+ and an uN was found ancestral for L813. L137 seems to be privatelike as the other L813+ was ancestral for L137. Who should test - Ken? Ole

    11/10/2011 06:06:26
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today?
    2. Kenneth Nordtvedt
    3. Today's L813+ is from I1-uN9. Note the 9 at DYS438. So L813+ unites uN2 and uN9 For sure someone from I1-uN9a should test for L813. uN9a has 449 = 27, 464a=12, 438=9, 439 = 12, 461 = 12, and 389 = 13/29. It has a more British Isles/German flavor to its geography, rather than Norwegian. Of course it is L22+ -----Original Message----- From: ole@selmer.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:06 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today? 2 weeks ago L813 was found derived in a WTY for kit 180647. He is uN2 from Denmark and today another uN2 from Norway was found derived for L813. A P109+ and an uN was found ancestral for L813. L137 seems to be privatelike as the other L813+ was ancestral for L137. Who should test - Ken? Ole ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/10/2011 10:15:05
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today?
    2. In the I1d - L22 project he is ungrouped. What is uN9? Ole On Fre, November 11, 2011 01:15, Kenneth Nordtvedt wrote: > Today's L813+ is from I1-uN9. Note the 9 at DYS438. So L813+ unites uN2 > and uN9 > > For sure someone from I1-uN9a should test for L813. > > uN9a has 449 = 27, 464a=12, 438=9, 439 = 12, 461 = 12, and 389 = 13/29. It > has a more British Isles/German flavor to its geography, rather than > Norwegian. > Of course it is L22+ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ole@selmer.org > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:06 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today? > > 2 weeks ago L813 was found derived in a WTY for kit 180647. He is uN2 from > Denmark and today another uN2 from Norway was found derived for > L813. A P109+ and an uN was found ancestral for L813. > > L137 seems to be privatelike as the other L813+ was ancestral for L137. > > Who should test - Ken? > > Ole > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

    11/10/2011 06:56:41
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today?
    2. Kenneth Nordtvedt
    3. Some brave souls in L22+ basic I1d, having a few bucks burning a hole in their pockets, should test Z58, Z131, and Z63. We'd like to directly confirm L22 is negative for all three; 1000 Genomes says this is the case, but it needs verification. These are the kind of tests one does for the "greater world community" rather than oneself. Maybe the I1 project could subsidize? Maybe it has been done? Let us know if so. Ken -----Original Message----- From: ole@selmer.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:06 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Is haplogroup I1d5 (L813+) born today? 2 weeks ago L813 was found derived in a WTY for kit 180647. He is uN2 from Denmark and today another uN2 from Norway was found derived for L813. A P109+ and an uN was found ancestral for L813. L137 seems to be privatelike as the other L813+ was ancestral for L137. Who should test - Ken? Ole ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/10/2011 10:20:32