Obed ~ You asked: "Roy, What is your current haplogroup assignment by STR classification?" I should have added my STR status (sorry I didn't). It is AS9b (AS16 per Ken). Other details, as said, are KIT 154151, Y- Search MUZGY. The AS16 per Ken refers to my group who are all 16 at DYS19 (I believe this is the rational). There maybe other STR markers peculiar for AS9b (AS16) too. It would be intriguing if there turned out to be a SNP for this bunch but that seems rather pie in the sky and likely shows my ignorance. I have no other motive for my readiness to order a SNP test other than being 70 and wanting to know what remains hidden behind the genes and also being able to pay for the tests. I check the FTDNA catalog daily for Z60, Z61, Z63, Z382, Z141, and DF29 although honestly I don't know which is a good choice for me to order. If any one of these became available, I'd likely order it out of anxiety. Ken might have an idea of what would be a good fit but I also think it is probably a moving target as the SNP test results come in making the SNP chart more defined. > Z59+ Z58+ P38+ P212+ M253+ L578+ L41+ Z63- Z140- Z139- Z138- Z131- > P259- P109- M72- M438- M227- M21- L803- L802- L573- L346- L344- L338- > L22- L211- L188- L161- Best, Roy Roy Silfven rsilfven@bendcable.com