I have been trying to make tree sense out of the growing Z58- Z63- Z131- I1* set of clades and found something interesting about what I called I1-AS1212 The name was inspired by the 12 at 393 and 12 at 392 for these haplotypes. But I notice on closer look that they split into two distinct subclades. The Z series snp tests were from just one subclade. So I think it important to get the entry Z series snps tested for representative of the other subclade So I am asking for Z58, Z63, and Z131 tests for anyone that I would call I1-AS1212b: 12 at 393 12 at 392 24 at 447 30 at 449 15 at 464d I1-AS1212 a&b seem to have an interclade node age of over 4000 years. Ken