I found it by just searching "ybrowse", amazing as it is. If I can find something anyone can. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: John M Rhodes Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 12:35 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps Where is YBROWSE? John M Rhodes On 2014-05-24, at 1:42 PM, Obed W Odom <owodom@utexas.edu> wrote: > Ken, to search YBrowse by location, for example for location 22208780, you > need to enter "Chry:22208780..22208780" (without the quotation marks) in > the search box. When I did this, it showed that FGC9495 is at this > location. Then, by clicking on FGC9495 a new window opens showing that > FGC9495 is a C to A mutation found by Full Genomes in 2014. > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > >> They can be seen as the first major division of "BigYtree-L813" >> >> 22208780 >> 21657006 >> 21426337 >> 18949040 >> 8035203 >> 8208733 >> 8839135 >> 14522697 >> 17082329 >> 18593683 >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken, to search YBrowse by location, for example for location 22208780, you need to enter "Chry:22208780..22208780" (without the quotation marks) in the search box. When I did this, it showed that FGC9495 is at this location. Then, by clicking on FGC9495 a new window opens showing that FGC9495 is a C to A mutation found by Full Genomes in 2014. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > They can be seen as the first major division of "BigYtree-L813" > > 22208780 > 21657006 > 21426337 > 18949040 > 8035203 > 8208733 > 8839135 > 14522697 > 17082329 > 18593683 > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt >

So who is using b38? Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: G. Magoon Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:48 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps The location numbers that you are using (based on b37) have already changed with the recent introduction of b38 and there will almost certainly be further changes as the reference sequence is further refined. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > I certainly DON'T want snp names as such; I believe location numbers are > best names for sure which will never change. Keeping a limited number of > historically significant early snp names is OK, but the naming process > should stop in my opinion. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: John O'Grady > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:10 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps > > If you want SNP names, people need to send their BAM files to YFull and/or > FGC for analysis. It costs $50, but it would make your job a lot easier. > > John O'Grady > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > Can't yet put in location and get snp. But scrolling will allow location > > to > > find name easy enough. 10 new snps divide L813 sector of I1 tree. Not > > one > > of them is listed in FGC series or any other series for that matter. > > Strange. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK, understand. An amalgamation of different tests. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: william.archerd.sr@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:39 AM To: YDNA-Rootsweb Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ My FullGenomes test shows me positive at S6346 and I knew previously from Ethnoancestry and FTDNA testing that I was L22-. Neither the I1 Project nor the Viking Project at FTDNA seem to know the above nor to have considered the fact that FTDNA tested me negative at L69. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > Not interested in riddles; just wanted to know who explicitly tested > S6346+ > but L22-. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: william.archerd.sr@gmail.com > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:25 AM > To: YDNA-Rootsweb > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ > > Kenneth - my answer, in more detail than my first post, is in the renamed > thread "Brick Wall at S6346 (was CTS6364)" and in the jpg file that I sent > you offline. Bill Archerd > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > When and how did he get S6346 results? > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: G. Magoon > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:01 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ > > > > That would be Archerd, the original poster. > > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > > > Who has the evidence S6346 is split upstream from L22. I kinow it is > > > downstream of CTS10028? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. That they were probably all found in one individual makes sense. Of the dozen or so BigY people from L813, they either have them all or have none of them. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: John O'Grady Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:37 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps I have listed the SNPs below. In order to use Thomas Krahn's browser, you have to enter the location in the search box in this format: ChrY:22208780-22208780 Based on the SNP numbers, they were all found in one individual. If you contact Greg Magoon privately, he may be able to give you more information. John O'Grady ---------------------------------------- > > They can be seen as the first major division of "BigYtree-L813" > > 22208780 FGC9495 C to A > 21657006 FGC9494 G to C > 21426337 FGC9493 A to G > 18949040 FGC9487 T to A > 8035203 FGC9467 T to C > 8208733 FGC 9468 T to C > 8839135 FGC9469 T to G > 14522697 FGC9476 C to G > 17082329 no SNP > 18593683 FGC9486 A to T > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is part of the ISOGG web site: http://ybrowse.isogg.org/cgi-bin/gb2/gbrowse/chrY/ ---------------------------------------- > > Where is YBROWSE? > > John M Rhodes

My FullGenomes test shows me positive at S6346 and I knew previously from Ethnoancestry and FTDNA testing that I was L22-. Neither the I1 Project nor the Viking Project at FTDNA seem to know the above nor to have considered the fact that FTDNA tested me negative at L69. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > Not interested in riddles; just wanted to know who explicitly tested S6346+ > but L22-. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: william.archerd.sr@gmail.com > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:25 AM > To: YDNA-Rootsweb > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ > > Kenneth - my answer, in more detail than my first post, is in the renamed > thread "Brick Wall at S6346 (was CTS6364)" and in the jpg file that I sent > you offline. Bill Archerd > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > When and how did he get S6346 results? > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: G. Magoon > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:01 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ > > > > That would be Archerd, the original poster. > > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > > > Who has the evidence S6346 is split upstream from L22. I kinow it is > > > downstream of CTS10028? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I certainly DON'T want snp names as such; I believe location numbers are best names for sure which will never change. Keeping a limited number of historically significant early snp names is OK, but the naming process should stop in my opinion. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: John O'Grady Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:10 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps If you want SNP names, people need to send their BAM files to YFull and/or FGC for analysis. It costs $50, but it would make your job a lot easier. John O'Grady ---------------------------------------- > > Can't yet put in location and get snp. But scrolling will allow location > to > find name easy enough. 10 new snps divide L813 sector of I1 tree. Not one > of them is listed in FGC series or any other series for that matter. > Strange. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not interested in riddles; just wanted to know who explicitly tested S6346+ but L22-. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: william.archerd.sr@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:25 AM To: YDNA-Rootsweb Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ Kenneth - my answer, in more detail than my first post, is in the renamed thread "Brick Wall at S6346 (was CTS6364)" and in the jpg file that I sent you offline. Bill Archerd On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > When and how did he get S6346 results? > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: G. Magoon > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:01 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ > > That would be Archerd, the original poster. > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > Who has the evidence S6346 is split upstream from L22. I kinow it is > > downstream of CTS10028? > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kenneth - my answer, in more detail than my first post, is in the renamed thread "Brick Wall at S6346 (was CTS6364)" and in the jpg file that I sent you offline. Bill Archerd On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > When and how did he get S6346 results? > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: G. Magoon > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:01 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ > > That would be Archerd, the original poster. > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt > <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > > > Who has the evidence S6346 is split upstream from L22. I kinow it is > > downstream of CTS10028? > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When and how did he get S6346 results? Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: G. Magoon Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:01 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Brick Wall at CTS6364+ That would be Archerd, the original poster. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > Who has the evidence S6346 is split upstream from L22. I kinow it is > downstream of CTS10028? > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recommended several new snps found in BigY to hobbyists who then ordered them as individual snps from www.yseq.net The speed with which they received results was very impressive. After suffering the unnecessarily very long waiting times for ysnp orders from FTDNA for years, this has been refreshing and what I had thought could be the norm for the hobby. I hope this yseq.net experience continues. Here’s the drill as I see it. When a bunch of sufficiently close dna samples, often co-members of a clade, have done BigY or another quasi full Y test, and their sector’s weeded tree constructed from the results, one finds the downstream snp locations which others could test to see how they further enrich the sector tree. The key new snps are requested from yseq.net; when they are added to the catalog the relevant hobbyists can place their orders for a price competitive with FTDNA. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net

They can be seen as the first major division of "BigYtree-L813" 22208780 21657006 21426337 18949040 8035203 8208733 8839135 14522697 17082329 18593683 Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: John O'Grady Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:43 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps Ken, List the locations and I will see what I can find. John O'Grady ---------------------------------------- > > It gives me "not found" no matter what location I put into it. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can't yet put in location and get snp. But scrolling will allow location to find name easy enough. 10 new snps divide L813 sector of I1 tree. Not one of them is listed in FGC series or any other series for that matter. Strange. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Obed W Odom Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:37 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps It looks like YBrowse now has basically all FGC SNPs from FGC1 to FGC13735, with just a few gaps. By entering, for example, FGC1* in the search box at YBrowse, one is shown a list of up to 1000 FGC SNPs beginning with "FGC1", sorted by Y chromosome position. Similarly, FGC11* in the search box would show a list of up to 1000 FGC SNPs beginning with "FGC11". So one can without too much difficulty determine the Y chromosome positions of all of the entered FGC SNPs. The ancestral and derived alleles for any SNP can be seen by clicking on that particular SNP name. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > The ones I was interested in yesterday were not there, or if so with only > the most cursory information. A directory is much quicker to learn what > you > want than looking them up individually. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It looks like YBrowse now has basically all FGC SNPs from FGC1 to FGC13735, with just a few gaps. By entering, for example, FGC1* in the search box at YBrowse, one is shown a list of up to 1000 FGC SNPs beginning with "FGC1", sorted by Y chromosome position. Similarly, FGC11* in the search box would show a list of up to 1000 FGC SNPs beginning with "FGC11". So one can without too much difficulty determine the Y chromosome positions of all of the entered FGC SNPs. The ancestral and derived alleles for any SNP can be seen by clicking on that particular SNP name. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > The ones I was interested in yesterday were not there, or if so with only > the most cursory information. A directory is much quicker to learn what > you > want than looking them up individually. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt >

I have listed the SNPs below. In order to use Thomas Krahn's browser, you have to enter the location in the search box in this format: ChrY:22208780-22208780 Based on the SNP numbers, they were all found in one individual. If you contact Greg Magoon privately, he may be able to give you more information. John O'Grady ---------------------------------------- > > They can be seen as the first major division of "BigYtree-L813" > > 22208780 FGC9495 C to A > 21657006 FGC9494 G to C > 21426337 FGC9493 A to G > 18949040 FGC9487 T to A > 8035203 FGC9467 T to C > 8208733 FGC 9468 T to C > 8839135 FGC9469 T to G > 14522697 FGC9476 C to G > 17082329 no SNP > 18593683 FGC9486 A to T > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt

It gives me "not found" no matter what location I put into it. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Obed W Odom Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:37 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] FGC and Y series snps It looks like YBrowse now has basically all FGC SNPs from FGC1 to FGC13735, with just a few gaps. By entering, for example, FGC1* in the search box at YBrowse, one is shown a list of up to 1000 FGC SNPs beginning with "FGC1", sorted by Y chromosome position. Similarly, FGC11* in the search box would show a list of up to 1000 FGC SNPs beginning with "FGC11". So one can without too much difficulty determine the Y chromosome positions of all of the entered FGC SNPs. The ancestral and derived alleles for any SNP can be seen by clicking on that particular SNP name. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > The ones I was interested in yesterday were not there, or if so with only > the most cursory information. A directory is much quicker to learn what > you > want than looking them up individually. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a lot of FGC and Y series SNPs for I-M223 Roots particular R9-12 group. I'll see what I can find out on any directory/list. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net>wrote: > What is the link to directories for FGC and Y series snp locations? > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have put a new sector tree “ BigYtree-L813” on my website with all shown snps being weeded. Main significant structure is the massive split done only with severeal brand new snps. I see no geographical significance yet for this massive split. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net

If you want SNP names, people need to send their BAM files to YFull and/or FGC for analysis. It costs $50, but it would make your job a lot easier. John O'Grady ---------------------------------------- > > Can't yet put in location and get snp. But scrolling will allow location to > find name easy enough. 10 new snps divide L813 sector of I1 tree. Not one > of them is listed in FGC series or any other series for that matter. > Strange. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt