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    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken Will Return Soon!
    2. Vic Jensen
    3. That's good news. Very glad he's OK. Thanks. Vic Jensen -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Britton Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:57 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Ken Will Return Soon! I have just received notice that Ken is well and will be returning soon. Lindsey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/15/2014 11:58:09
    1. [yDNAhgI] Ken Will Return Soon!
    2. Elizabeth Britton
    3. I have just received notice that Ken is well and will be returning soon. Lindsey

    05/15/2014 08:57:59
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken's absence
    2. Didier VERNADE
    3. As far as y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com is concerned I can tell that Ken wasn't unsubscribed and he is still on the list.   Didier Vernade > > About a week ago, I was dropped from the list.  I wonder if more people were dropped including Ken? > > I too noticed the lack of traffic vs. the R1b U106 list which is flooding my email box. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I contacted Ken privately now. > > Best regards. > Jürgen > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List > From: Matthew Simonds > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Date: Dienstag, 13. Mai 2014 18:39:36 > >> Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. > >> > > Does Ken ever go on vacation? Maybe that's why he hasn't been active in the the various lists. > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:11 -0400 > >> From: johnmrhodes409@gmail.com > >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List > >> > >> Didier and Lindsey, > >> > >> Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Elizabeth Britton wrote: > >> > >>> The list is active but it seems we are missing some very active members, > >>> among > >>> those Ken Nordtvedt. > >>> > >>> Didier Vernade > >>> > >>> ***************************** > >>> > >>> Yes, I have a new L1275 for Ken's database and a question or two for him. > >>> > >>> Lindsey > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >>> > >>  > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >                        > >  > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/15/2014 04:56:26
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken
    2. Elizabeth Britton
    3. I tried to telephone Ken yesterday morning. I received the "can't answer now" message and left a message for him to call me. I am assuming that they are out of town for now. ******************************** I wondered about that, too. When we learned that the first results from Big-Y were expected in February, he said something about not going on vacation then; perhaps he decided to go now since there are few orders pending. He probably needs a break after analyzing so many Big-Y files. Lindsey

    05/15/2014 04:42:56
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken
    2. Wilfred Husted
    3. Howdy Wayne, Yes, the string doesn't stretch that far! I haven't heard from Ken since I called. I will try again this weekend. Howdy is our G'day here in Montana. Wil -----Original Message----- From: Wayne R. Roberts Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:38 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken Thanks Wil for taking the time to telephone. A bit impossible for me here in Australia. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Wilfred Husted <wmhusted@hotmail.com>wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I tried to telephone Ken yesterday morning. I received the "can't answer > now" message and left a message for him to call me. I am assuming that > they > are out of town > for now. > > Someone apparently has hacked the forum site. I’ve tried to send this > message several times since calling Ken but none have gone through. One > more time! > > Wil Husted > Billings, MT

    05/15/2014 04:42:10
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30
    2. Gene Prescott
    3. It appears that time stamp on parent directory updates whenever anyone visits the site, not just when Ken visits.

    05/15/2014 02:33:43
    1. [yDNAhgI] Ken
    2. Wilfred Husted
    3. Hello Everyone, I tried to telephone Ken yesterday morning. I received the "can't answer now" message and left a message for him to call me. I am assuming that they are out of town for now. Someone apparently has hacked the forum site. I’ve tried to send this message several times since calling Ken but none have gone through. One more time! Wil Husted Billings, MT

    05/15/2014 02:03:20
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30
    2. Familienarchiv Fritsche + Saldarriaga
    3. But the parent directory of Ken's homepage had been updated today, 4 hrs ago ... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30 From: Gene Prescott <prescottg@gmail.com> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Date: Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2014 16:06:26 > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/?M=D

    05/14/2014 06:17:40
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Is rootsweb down?
    2. Bob Wilmott
    3. Testing....

    05/14/2014 04:01:30
    1. [yDNAhgI] Subscribe
    2. Wilfred Husted
    3. Subscribe

    05/14/2014 12:50:39
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30
    2. Elizabeth Britton
    3. Perhaps he's on holiday somewhere, but I am concerned. I hope all is well. Lindsey

    05/14/2014 06:03:15
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30
    2. Arvin, Robert
    3. Kenneth lives in Bozeman, Montana. There are no obituaries in The Bozeman Daily Chronicle for "Kenneth Nordtvedt" for the past 30 days. That's real good news. Bob Arvin -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Britton Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:03 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30 Perhaps he's on holiday somewhere, but I am concerned. I hope all is well. Lindsey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/14/2014 05:15:28
    1. [yDNAhgI] Ken's Last Update to his bresnan site is April 30
    2. Gene Prescott
    3. http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net/?M=D

    05/14/2014 04:06:26
    1. [yDNAhgI] Ken's absence
    2. Familienarchiv Fritsche + Saldarriaga
    3. I contacted Ken privately now. Best regards. Jürgen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List From: Matthew Simonds <mwsimonds@hotmail.com> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Date: Dienstag, 13. Mai 2014 18:39:36 >> Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. >> > Does Ken ever go on vacation? Maybe that's why he hasn't been active in the the various lists. > > >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:11 -0400 >> From: johnmrhodes409@gmail.com >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List >> >> Didier and Lindsey, >> >> Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. >> >> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Elizabeth Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>wrote: >> >>> The list is active but it seems we are missing some very active members, >>> among >>> those Ken Nordtvedt. >>> >>> Didier Vernade >>> >>> ***************************** >>> >>> Yes, I have a new L1275 for Ken's database and a question or two for him. >>> >>> Lindsey >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/13/2014 06:04:35
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] PF5371
    2. Wayne R. Roberts
    3. Did you check for it under it's other names, L199, L443, L675, in Known SNPs? On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Matthew Simonds <mwsimonds@hotmail.com>wrote: > > I'm also puzzled as to why the variant at Y position 15477748 (T to A) > appears in my variants.vcf file but not in my "Novel Variants" or in my > "Known SNPs". Since this IS a known SNP (PF5371), it should have been in my > Known SNPs list. Or if PF5371 is not in Family Tree DNA's Known SNP list > yet, it seems that this variant should have turned up in my "Novel > Variants" list. > Matthew Simonds > > > > > From: mwsimonds@hotmail.com > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 06:46:11 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] PF5371 > > > > > > Myself, a distant same-surname relative, and someone with a separate > surname but still fairly closely linked by STR markers all tested positive > for PF5371 at position 15477748, T to A. We had previously been put in our > own subgroup in the P109 Haplogroup Project. None of the other 19 P109+ > people for whom Big Y results are available tested positive for this SNP. > > According to Ybrowse, this SNP was first reported by Paolo Francalacci > in 2011. It says "extracted from genome study of Sardinian samples" and for > ISOGG Haplogroup it says R1b1a2a1a1d so was apparently found in someone > from that haplogroup but only in one individual (for "count derived" it > says "1" out of "8" for "count tested"). > > Has this SNP been found in other R1b people? > > Also, ybrowse says for YCC (Y Chromosome Consortium) Haplogroup: > "Approx. hg: J?" > > How likely is it that a SNP will develop separately within two > individuals in different haplogroups and be inherited by their descendants > (i.e. the two groups of descendants with this SNP did not inherit it from a > common ancestor)? > > > > Matthew Simonds > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/13/2014 05:43:45
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List
    2. T.J. White
    3. Hope he (Ken) is okay. T.J. White On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Wilfred Husted <wmhusted@hotmail.com>wrote: > I also sent Ken an email earlier today but have not had a reply, > > Wil Husted > > -----Original Message----- > From: John M Rhodes > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:14 PM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List > > I sent Ken an email message to his personal address today but have not > received a reply. > > John M Rhodes > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165

    05/13/2014 01:24:20
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] PF5371
    2. Wayne R. Roberts
    3. This is quite common Matthew. FTDNA use to label these SNPs that mutated independently in different Haplogroups at different times as PF5371.1, PF5371.2 for example. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Matthew Simonds <mwsimonds@hotmail.com>wrote: > > Myself, a distant same-surname relative, and someone with a separate > surname but still fairly closely linked by STR markers all tested positive > for PF5371 at position 15477748, T to A. We had previously been put in our > own subgroup in the P109 Haplogroup Project. None of the other 19 P109+ > people for whom Big Y results are available tested positive for this SNP. > According to Ybrowse, this SNP was first reported by Paolo Francalacci in > 2011. It says "extracted from genome study of Sardinian samples" and for > ISOGG Haplogroup it says R1b1a2a1a1d so was apparently found in someone > from that haplogroup but only in one individual (for "count derived" it > says "1" out of "8" for "count tested"). > Has this SNP been found in other R1b people? > Also, ybrowse says for YCC (Y Chromosome Consortium) Haplogroup: "Approx. > hg: J?" > How likely is it that a SNP will develop separately within two individuals > in different haplogroups and be inherited by their descendants (i.e. the > two groups of descendants with this SNP did not inherit it from a common > ancestor)? > > Matthew Simonds > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/13/2014 11:44:31
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List
    2. John M Rhodes
    3. I sent Ken an email message to his personal address today but have not received a reply. John M Rhodes​ On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Elizabeth Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>wrote: > > Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. > > ************************* > > What is that and where it is? > > Lindsey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/13/2014 11:14:10
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List
    2. Wilfred Husted
    3. I also sent Ken an email earlier today but have not had a reply, Wil Husted -----Original Message----- From: John M Rhodes Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:14 PM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List I sent Ken an email message to his personal address today but have not received a reply. John M Rhodes

    05/13/2014 10:40:08
    1. Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List
    2. Matthew Simonds
    3. > > Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. > Does Ken ever go on vacation? Maybe that's why he hasn't been active in the the various lists. > Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:11 -0400 > From: johnmrhodes409@gmail.com > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Haplogroup I List > > Didier and Lindsey, > > Ken seems to be missing from the DNA-Haplogroup-I forum as well. > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Elizabeth Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com>wrote: > > > > > The list is active but it seems we are missing some very active members, > > among > > those Ken Nordtvedt. > > > > Didier Vernade > > > > ***************************** > > > > Yes, I have a new L1275 for Ken's database and a question or two for him. > > > > Lindsey > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/13/2014 10:39:36