This is all of great interest to me, since myself and my subclade are all L22 NuN14. T.J. White On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Mats Ahlgren <ma.ahlgren@telia.com> wrote: > This is what Y-full say about the snps > > Name position Consensus Reference > > Y3601 22803391 C T > Y3602 19420298 A C > Y3603 22298941 A G > Y3604 22948319 G C > Y3605 14388450 A C > Y3606 17946911 G T > Y3607 18124512 C T > > > Mats > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:43 PM > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > > > > The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large number > > of > > unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" > > tree > > because not covered by Chromo2. > > > > Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are the > > same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mats Ahlgren > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > > > > Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal SNPs > > S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 > > > > The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 > > territory, the other's seems to be new > > > > Mats > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165
This is what Y-full say about the snps Name position Consensus Reference Y3601 22803391 C T Y3602 19420298 A C Y3603 22298941 A G Y3604 22948319 G C Y3605 14388450 A C Y3606 17946911 G T Y3607 18124512 C T Mats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large number > of > unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" > tree > because not covered by Chromo2. > > Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are the > same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mats Ahlgren > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > > Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal SNPs > S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 > > The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 > territory, the other's seems to be new > > Mats > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal SNPs S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 territory, the other's seems to be new Mats
Did Kit 331731 join the I1 project? He is AS7E2 and a close match to Britton. Although he ordered Y-111, I see only 67 markers posted so far at the Bronson project. No known connection to my Britton line and a short pedigree, so I suspect an NPE somewhere in his line. Lindsey
Yes, BigY has all them plus: 8457411, 91546920, 22237811, 22252091, 22312634, 22462185 Although some of these may even further divide NuN14. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Mats Ahlgren Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:18 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch This is what Y-full say about the snps Name position Consensus Reference Y3601 22803391 C T Y3602 19420298 A C Y3603 22298941 A G Y3604 22948319 G C Y3605 14388450 A C Y3606 17946911 G T Y3607 18124512 C T Mats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large number > of > unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" > tree > because not covered by Chromo2. > > Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are the > same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mats Ahlgren > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > > Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal SNPs > S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 > > The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 > territory, the other's seems to be new > > Mats > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large number of unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" tree because not covered by Chromo2. Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are the same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Mats Ahlgren Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal SNPs S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 territory, the other's seems to be new Mats ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
You might try doing nothing!! Three times I have been "unsubscribed". I have ignored it and within a few hours I am automatically "resubscribed" Neville Colfer > From: mwsimonds@hotmail.com > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 05:31:05 +0000 > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed > > > > > > When I receive notice that I have been "unsubscribed" I reply asking that I > > remain on the list and they re-activate my account. > > > Or you can just send another email that says "subscribe" in the body and the subject line. That's what I've done, and it re-subscribes me. > Matthew Simonds > > > > From: gamesri@comcast.net > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:37:02 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed > > > > When I receive notice that I have been "unsubscribed" I reply asking that I > > remain on the list and they re-activate my account. This has happened > > several tine of late. > > Ralph Games Kit 31781 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jonathan > > harrington > > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:39 PM > > To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed > > > > Does anyone know why we are being knocked off rootsweb and then put back on > > later > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi everybody, Luckily I never got such a message till now, I received all the posts during the last months. Francois Marquis -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Games Sent: samedi 17 mai 2014 06:37 To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed When I receive notice that I have been "unsubscribed" I reply asking that I remain on the list and they re-activate my account. This has happened several tine of late. Ralph Games Kit 31781 -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jonathan harrington Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:39 PM To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed Does anyone know why we are being knocked off rootsweb and then put back on later Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> > When I receive notice that I have been "unsubscribed" I reply asking that I > remain on the list and they re-activate my account. Or you can just send another email that says "subscribe" in the body and the subject line. That's what I've done, and it re-subscribes me. Matthew Simonds > From: gamesri@comcast.net > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 21:37:02 -0700 > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed > > When I receive notice that I have been "unsubscribed" I reply asking that I > remain on the list and they re-activate my account. This has happened > several tine of late. > Ralph Games Kit 31781 > > -----Original Message----- > From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jonathan > harrington > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:39 PM > To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed > > Does anyone know why we are being knocked off rootsweb and then put back on > later > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
At the same time rootsweb changed their web pages for these maillist by adding a -L Stuart had a comment during the last bout last month From: Stuart Phethean < stuart.phethean@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Recent Spam Identification Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:47:33 +0100 Jim, I suspect that this issue, and the recent automatic unsubscribes on many mailing lists involves a problem with the implementation of a new security technical specification, DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance), http://www.dmarc.org/ . This is being implemented by the main ESPs (Email Service Providers), sometimes with rather aggressive settings. The DMARC protocol checks incoming email against the sending ESP to prevent someone spoofing email IDs to send spam & virus programs. Unfortunately, email lists like Yahoo Groups and Rootsweb rebroadcast emails so to the DMARC process, these appear as spoofs and get bounced, or in the case of a recipient with Gmail, they end up flagged as spam. See also this article on ZDNet: http://goo.gl/Rn7KvX which explains it quite well. Stuart ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonathan harrington" <op825@msn.com> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:39:22 PM Subject: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed Does anyone know why we are being knocked off rootsweb and then put back on later Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I don't know, but it keeps happening to me as well. > From: op825@msn.com > Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 19:39:22 -0400 > To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed > > Does anyone know why we are being knocked off rootsweb and then put back on later > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
List, This list (and others) has been the subject of (too) many disorders. I suggest the following for peple who want to be on the safe side : gmail addresses have never been unsubscribed until now., so you may subscribe with a gmail address... Reminder : to subscribe to the list (no digest) you have to send a message with the sigle word "subscribe" in both subject and body , to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-L-request@rootsweb.com. If you want the digest : same but send to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-D-request@rootsweb.com Didier Vernadem administrator
When I receive notice that I have been "unsubscribed" I reply asking that I remain on the list and they re-activate my account. This has happened several tine of late. Ralph Games Kit 31781 -----Original Message----- From: y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:y-dna-haplogroup-i-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jonathan harrington Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:39 PM To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Unsubscribed Does anyone know why we are being knocked off rootsweb and then put back on later Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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Strange things are happening at FTDNA. Kit 118335 in the Britton project has long been classified as R1b; in fact, the WAMH emblem below is still in his account, but he has recently been reclassified as I-P37. I wrote to FTDNA on Monday and was told that this was likely the result of an IT problem, but so far no correction has been made. Lindsey Your Predicted Haplogroup is I-P37 DNA results--he is in Group Ungrouped A--Place of Origin in the UK is Known: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Britton/default.aspx?section=ycolorized
Indeed he was! ************************** Welcome back, Ken! Yes, a little bird told me yesterday that you had been away. As you can see, we missed you, but I hope you had a good time. A new AS7E turned up last week--64/67 match to Britton--surname Bronson, Kit # 331731. Y-111 pending. I told him to join the I1 project, but don't know whether he did. He has a short pedigree to 1884 in Canada, ancestor orphaned at age seven and sent to an orphanage whereas our haplotype is confirmed to 1672/3. http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/brunson/results Lindsey
Don't waste solid AS1 people with upstream snps for testing. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: William Hartley Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:04 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New SNPs for Z140 Project members I have an updated list for new SNPs available individually for I1-M253 and Z140 branch members. In addition to those available at FTDNA, we now have several available at YSEQ in order to post YSEQ results, share and compare, we also have a new groups at YSEQ: Group I1-Z140 Project http://shop.yseq.net/group_alleles.php?gid=22 Group I1-M253 Project http://shop.yseq.net/group_alleles.php?gid=23 This is the current list of Hg-I1 SNPs available at YSEQ: A261 I1 for I1-Z2535+ L338+members of HAMILTON and TATE subgroups A262 I1 for I1-Z2535+ L338+members of HAMILTON and TATE subgroups A264 I1 for I1-Z2535+ L338+members of HAMILTON and TATE subgroups A266 I1 A269 I1 A270 I1 A271 I1 A272 I1 A280 I1 A282 I1 A284 I1 A285 I1 CTS11651 I1 CTS11995 I1 CTS1793 I1 CTS6739 I1 [aka S2166] for I1-Z140+ F2642+ branch members CTS6772 I1 for F2642+GROUP B members, close to Y1966 CTS8716 I1 FGC12741 I1 FGC12743 I1 FGC12744 I1 FGC12745 I1 FGC12746 I1 FGC12748 I1 FGC12749 I1 FGC12751 I1 FGC12752 I1 FGC12753 I1 FGC12754 I1 FGC12756 I1 FGC12757 I1 FGC12758 I1 FGC12759 I1 FGC12761 I1 FGC12762 I1 FGC12764 I1 FGC2491 I1 for F2642+GROUP A members FGC2491 = Y1884 = S2158. FGC3500 I1 FGC8677 I1 FGC8681 I1 FGC8682 I1 FGC8684 I1 FGC8685 I1 FGC8686 I1 FGC8688 I1 L573 I1 S12289 I1 for I1-Z2535+ L338+ membersof DOUGLAS and SMITH subgroups. S1990 I1 for I1-Z2535+ L338+ members of DUNBAR, JAMES, HAMILTON and TATE subgroups S2001 I1 for I1-Z2535+ L338+members of DUNBAR, JAMES, HAMILTON and TATE subgroups S20246 I1 S2155 I1 [aka Z2904] for I1-Z140+ F2642+ branch members S2158 I1 for F2642+GROUP A members FGC2491 = Y1884 = S2158. S2195 I1 for I1-Z2538+branch members. S239 I1 S297 I1 S5619 I1 S6277 I1 S8412 I1 Z2338 I1 Z718 I1 Z75 I1 Testing Kit: If you order a DNA analysis from YSEQ you don't need to order this separately. We'll ship the kit at the first order anyways. until Fathers' Day 2014, individual testing of SNPs at YSEQ is only $25 [normally $35] William Hartley I1-M253&Z140 Projects at FTDNA, YSEQ, Facebook and YFull On 6 May 2014 21:33, <y-dna-haplogroup-i-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New SNPs for I1-Z140 Project members > I submitted well over a dozen new SNPs, taken from Chromo 2.0, Full > Genomes and Big-Y results, for I1-Z140 Project members to test > individually at FTDNA. > If you are a member of any Z140 subgroup, please test ones that are > relevant to your branch, as per the charts posted on our Project. If in > doubt, please ask. > > This is not a full list. And due to technical reasons, not all the new > SNPs > submitted will necessarily be added to the catalogue. > > There are more new SNPs to come. I submitted another batch last week.. > > So, watch this space!! > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Glad you are back and nice to know you are missed, hey? On May 16, 2014 9:21 AM, "Ken Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > > Indeed he was! > > On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:03:15 -0400 (EDT) > Elizabeth Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Perhaps he's on holiday somewhere, but I am concerned. I hope all is > well. > > > > Lindsey > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > See http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net and especially pdf files "Tree for > I1" > and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" which show my working tree for Y > haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as information is > received. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Indeed he was! On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:03:15 -0400 (EDT) Elizabeth Britton <lplantagenet@aol.com> wrote: > > Perhaps he's on holiday somewhere, but I am concerned. I hope all is well. > > Lindsey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message See http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net and especially pdf files "Tree for I1" and "Tree and Map for haplogroup I" which show my working tree for Y haplogroup I. These files are periodically updated as information is received.
Thanks Wil for taking the time to telephone. A bit impossible for me here in Australia. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Wilfred Husted <wmhusted@hotmail.com>wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I tried to telephone Ken yesterday morning. I received the "can't answer > now" message and left a message for him to call me. I am assuming that they > are out of town > for now. > > Someone apparently has hacked the forum site. I’ve tried to send this > message several times since calling Ken but none have gone through. One > more time! > > Wil Husted > Billings, MT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message