OK, thanks I'll go check out YSEQ. Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > The short list is about half your vetted (weeded) unique snps. I'm tired of > explaining the dumb things FTDNA does, including the name "novel variants". > Most of your NVs are found in many, many people. They are just new to the > old world prior to BigY. > > I think YSEQ prices to buy a snp test are comparable to FTDNA charge, maybe > a bit less. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:10 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > So the short list you sent is now all 217 NVs? > > Have you an idea of the cost at YSEQ? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel >> variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you >> and >> close colleagues. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kenneth Nordtvedt >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, >> find >> primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. >> >> I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, >> there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by >> position? >> FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. >> >> I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that >> were >> originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also >> have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 >> to >> 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I >> thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Richard Reed >> >> On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >>> start: >>> >>> 2668557 >>> 2831544 >>> 15226727 >>> 14138491 >>> 13807060 >>> 13670021 >>> 7540762 >>> >>> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >>> and >>> SNP? >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>>> evident. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>>> the >>>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>>> >>>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>>> take >>>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>>> places >>>> I'm sure. >>>> >>>> Richard Reed >>>> >>>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>>> spread >>>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>>> with >>>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>>> by >>>>> the others. >>>>> >>>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>>> separated >>>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>>> >>>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Richard Reed >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>>> >>>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>>> Novel >>>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>>> >>>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So, a Novel Variant is Novel to the genetic community because it has not been named, but not to me. A Private SNP to me is a Unique Novel Variant. If I have a stack of Unique Novel Variants, are they linear because they are in one individual or can Mutations occur in one individual simultaneously if in different regions? And if that is yes, Are mutations in a single region of a single individual linear? Because I have two such regions that have five Novel Variants, assuming they are also Unique, and are linear and downstream from each other, they would represent approximately 1500 years of Mutations. Does that increase the age of our Haplogroup by 1500 years? To have so many simultaneous mutations, what environmental stress could account for that? I hope to use a private SNP to weed in or weed out individuals in my genetic cluster at the Reed project. If they are weeded in then they are AS10b as I am, right? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you and > close colleagues. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, find > primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > > I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by position? > FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > > I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that were > originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also > have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 to > 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I > thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > > What do you think? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >> start: >> >> 2668557 >> 2831544 >> 15226727 >> 14138491 >> 13807060 >> 13670021 >> 7540762 >> >> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >> and >> SNP? >> >> Richard Reed >> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>> evident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>> the >>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>> >>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>> take >>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>> places >>> I'm sure. >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> >>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>> spread >>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>> with >>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>> by >>>> the others. >>>> >>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>> separated >>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>> Novel >>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

YSEQ currently has a circa 30% off sale lasting until Father's Day. Their website is at: <http://shop.yseq.net/> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Richard Reed <reedr@wcoil.com> wrote: > OK, thanks I'll go check out YSEQ. > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 12:44 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > > > The short list is about half your vetted (weeded) unique snps. I'm > tired of > > explaining the dumb things FTDNA does, including the name "novel > variants". > > Most of your NVs are found in many, many people. They are just new to > the > > old world prior to BigY. > > > > I think YSEQ prices to buy a snp test are comparable to FTDNA charge, > maybe > > a bit less. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Reed > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:10 AM > > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > > > So the short list you sent is now all 217 NVs? > > > > Have you an idea of the cost at YSEQ? > > > > Richard Reed > > > > On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < > knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > >> variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you > >> and > >> close colleagues. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> > >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >> > >> Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, > >> find > >> primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > >> > >> I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > >> there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > >> > >> > >> > >> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> > >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Richard Reed > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >> > >> Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by > >> position? > >> FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > >> > >> I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that > >> were > >> originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I > also > >> have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 > >> to > >> 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these > regions I > >> thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > >> Richard Reed > >> > >> On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < > knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but > here's a > >>> start: > >>> > >>> 2668557 > >>> 2831544 > >>> 15226727 > >>> 14138491 > >>> 13807060 > >>> 13670021 > >>> 7540762 > >>> > >>> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >>> > >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Richard Reed > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM > >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >>> > >>> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin > down > >>> and > >>> SNP? > >>> > >>> Richard Reed > >>> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" < > knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly > >>>> evident. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >>>> > >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Richard Reed > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM > >>>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >>>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >>>> > >>>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the > >>>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have > cooled > >>>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR > in > >>>> the > >>>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in > STRs, > >>>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. > >>>> > >>>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may > >>>> take > >>>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong > >>>> places > >>>> I'm sure. > >>>> > >>>> Richard Reed > >>>> > >>>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" > >>>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison > >>>>> spread > >>>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are > alone > >>>>> with > >>>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not > shared > >>>>> by > >>>>> the others. > >>>>> > >>>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which > >>>>> separated > >>>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b > clade > >>>>> member to share some of those novel variants > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt > >>>>> > >>>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >>>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Richard Reed > >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM > >>>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > >>>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > >>>>> > >>>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile > of > >>>>> Novel > >>>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret > them. > >>>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? > >>>>> > >>>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>>> without > >>>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>> without > >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So the short list you sent is now all 217 NVs? Have you an idea of the cost at YSEQ? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you and > close colleagues. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, find > primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > > I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by position? > FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > > I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that were > originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also > have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 to > 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I > thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > > What do you think? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >> start: >> >> 2668557 >> 2831544 >> 15226727 >> 14138491 >> 13807060 >> 13670021 >> 7540762 >> >> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >> and >> SNP? >> >> Richard Reed >> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>> evident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>> the >>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>> >>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>> take >>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>> places >>> I'm sure. >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> >>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>> spread >>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>> with >>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>> by >>>> the others. >>>> >>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>> separated >>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>> Novel >>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mats Ahlgren, I don't know if your question was directed to me or not, but if so, my answer is, no--I have not tested with Big Y. It is unfortunately beyond my financial consideration at the moment. I very much wish I could, though! If I had the means, I would take any and all such tests, simply so as to leave no stone unturned! T.J. White Kit # 177950 Brewer Project Co-Admin. On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Mats Ahlgren <ma.ahlgren@telia.com> wrote: > Have you tested BigY? > > Mats > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "T.J. White" <tjwhite1963@gmail.com> > To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:44 AM > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > > > > This is all of great interest to me, since myself and my subclade are all > > L22 NuN14. > > > > T.J. White > > > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Mats Ahlgren <ma.ahlgren@telia.com> > > wrote: > > > >> This is what Y-full say about the snps > >> > >> Name position Consensus Reference > >> > >> Y3601 22803391 C T > >> Y3602 19420298 A C > >> Y3603 22298941 A G > >> Y3604 22948319 G C > >> Y3605 14388450 A C > >> Y3606 17946911 G T > >> Y3607 18124512 C T > >> > >> > >> Mats > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > >> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:43 PM > >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > >> > >> > >> > The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large > >> > number > >> > of > >> > unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" > >> > tree > >> > because not covered by Chromo2. > >> > > >> > Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are > the > >> > same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Kenneth Nordtvedt > >> > > >> > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > >> > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Mats Ahlgren > >> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM > >> > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > >> > > >> > Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal > >> > SNPs > >> > S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 > >> > > >> > The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 > >> > territory, the other's seems to be new > >> > > >> > Mats > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." > > > > Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165

We finally have some useful SNPs to divide the very large Dinaric haplogroup. One of the most important is S17250 and it is now available for testing as an individual SNP at FTDNA. You can also order S17250 from Thomas Krahn's http://www.yseq.net/ and no prior testing is required at this company. And S17250 is included as part of the Chromo2 test at BritainsDNA http://www.britainsdna.com/ Around 12 Dinarics have tested S17250 as part of Big Y or at YSEQ. All 5 Dinaric-South men were S17250+, and some Dinaric-North men were S17250+ and other Dinaric-North men were S17250-. The division between Dinaric-South and Dinaric-North is based on two STR markers and this division is not always a perfect reflection of genetic history. Dinarics belong to I-CTS5966 which is part of I-L621, I-M423, and I-P37 and they have been known by many other haplogroup designations over the years. Thanks to those Dinarics who have done Big Y or tested at YSEQ, and thanks to Larry Mayka of the Polish Project and Zdenko Markovic of the I2a project for analyzing the data. Please see our new Dinaric tree here http://i2aproject.blogspot.com/2014/05/important-new-snps-for-dinarics.htmland please feel free to contact me for the most recent advice before you order S17250 or any other test. Bernie Cullen one of the volunteer administrators, I2a Project

I can report that you have no clumps of NVs which survived weeding. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:04 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* So, a Novel Variant is Novel to the genetic community because it has not been named, but not to me. A Private SNP to me is a Unique Novel Variant. If I have a stack of Unique Novel Variants, are they linear because they are in one individual or can Mutations occur in one individual simultaneously if in different regions? And if that is yes, Are mutations in a single region of a single individual linear? Because I have two such regions that have five Novel Variants, assuming they are also Unique, and are linear and downstream from each other, they would represent approximately 1500 years of Mutations. Does that increase the age of our Haplogroup by 1500 years? To have so many simultaneous mutations, what environmental stress could account for that? I hope to use a private SNP to weed in or weed out individuals in my genetic cluster at the Reed project. If they are weeded in then they are AS10b as I am, right? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you > and > close colleagues. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, > find > primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > > I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by > position? > FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > > I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that > were > originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also > have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 > to > 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I > thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > > What do you think? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >> start: >> >> 2668557 >> 2831544 >> 15226727 >> 14138491 >> 13807060 >> 13670021 >> 7540762 >> >> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >> and >> SNP? >> >> Richard Reed >> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>> evident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>> the >>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>> >>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>> take >>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>> places >>> I'm sure. >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> >>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>> spread >>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>> with >>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>> by >>>> the others. >>>> >>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>> separated >>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>> Novel >>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If the socalled novel variants come in a locational bunch, chances are they are not serious unique snps for you but are in many diverse people all over the Y tree. But only way to weed a NV is to look at many (dozens and dozens) of different peoples' NV lists to see if any particular NV is unique to you and your lose colleagues. I have a collection of over a hundred I1 folks spread all over the tree. Every weeded NV for an individual in my spreadsheet was checked against all of those hundred plus folks. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:04 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* So, a Novel Variant is Novel to the genetic community because it has not been named, but not to me. A Private SNP to me is a Unique Novel Variant. If I have a stack of Unique Novel Variants, are they linear because they are in one individual or can Mutations occur in one individual simultaneously if in different regions? And if that is yes, Are mutations in a single region of a single individual linear? Because I have two such regions that have five Novel Variants, assuming they are also Unique, and are linear and downstream from each other, they would represent approximately 1500 years of Mutations. Does that increase the age of our Haplogroup by 1500 years? To have so many simultaneous mutations, what environmental stress could account for that? I hope to use a private SNP to weed in or weed out individuals in my genetic cluster at the Reed project. If they are weeded in then they are AS10b as I am, right? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you > and > close colleagues. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, > find > primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > > I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by > position? > FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > > I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that > were > originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also > have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 > to > 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I > thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > > What do you think? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >> start: >> >> 2668557 >> 2831544 >> 15226727 >> 14138491 >> 13807060 >> 13670021 >> 7540762 >> >> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >> and >> SNP? >> >> Richard Reed >> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>> evident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>> the >>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>> >>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>> take >>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>> places >>> I'm sure. >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> >>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>> spread >>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>> with >>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>> by >>>> the others. >>>> >>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>> separated >>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>> Novel >>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by position? FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that were originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 to 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. What do you think? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a > start: > > 2668557 > 2831544 > 15226727 > 14138491 > 13807060 > 13670021 > 7540762 > > These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down and > SNP? > > Richard Reed > On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >> evident. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >> the >> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >> >> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may take >> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >> places >> I'm sure. >> >> Richard Reed >> >> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>> spread >>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>> with >>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>> by >>> the others. >>> >>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which separated >>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>> member to share some of those novel variants >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>> Novel >>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>> >>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The short list is about half your vetted (weeded) unique snps. I'm tired of explaining the dumb things FTDNA does, including the name "novel variants". Most of your NVs are found in many, many people. They are just new to the old world prior to BigY. I think YSEQ prices to buy a snp test are comparable to FTDNA charge, maybe a bit less. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:10 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* So the short list you sent is now all 217 NVs? Have you an idea of the cost at YSEQ? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 11:23 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel > variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you > and > close colleagues. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Nordtvedt > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, > find > primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. > > I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, > there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by > position? > FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. > > I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that > were > originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also > have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 > to > 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I > thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. > > What do you think? > > Richard Reed > > On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a >> start: >> >> 2668557 >> 2831544 >> 15226727 >> 14138491 >> 13807060 >> 13670021 >> 7540762 >> >> These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down >> and >> SNP? >> >> Richard Reed >> On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >>> evident. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >>> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >>> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >>> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >>> the >>> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >>> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >>> >>> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >>> take >>> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >>> places >>> I'm sure. >>> >>> Richard Reed >>> >>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >>> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>>> spread >>>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>>> with >>>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>>> by >>>> the others. >>>> >>>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>>> separated >>>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>>> member to share some of those novel variants >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>>> >>>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Reed >>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>>> >>>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>>> Novel >>>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down and SNP? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly > evident. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the > genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled > their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in the > project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, > until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. > > Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may take > until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong places > I'm sure. > > Richard Reed > > On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison spread >> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >> with >> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared by >> the others. >> >> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which separated >> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >> member to share some of those novel variants >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >> Novel >> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >> >> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Your 22318..... snps are derived in dozens of people all over I1. Novel variants means little. One has to extract those unique to you or to you and close colleagues. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Nordtvedt Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:17 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, find primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by position? FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that were originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 to 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. What do you think? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a > start: > > 2668557 > 2831544 > 15226727 > 14138491 > 13807060 > 13670021 > 7540762 > > These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down > and > SNP? > > Richard Reed > On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >> evident. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >> the >> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >> >> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >> take >> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >> places >> I'm sure. >> >> Richard Reed >> >> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>> spread >>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>> with >>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>> by >>> the others. >>> >>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>> separated >>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>> member to share some of those novel variants >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>> Novel >>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>> >>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dr Krahn's new enterprise YSEQ will take snp locations, give it a name, find primers for testing, and make snp available for purchase. I have verified now all your unique snps. Without another AS10b person, there is not much you will learn from your unique snps. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:48 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* Are there any testing places that test variants identified only by position? FTDNA only offers known/named variants, but their price is right. I was looking at a region that has 5 NVs but also has 5 Known SNPs that were originally found in Poultry "Gallus Gallus" (14398922 to 14400277). I also have other regions with similar multi NVs 22318413 to 22318992, 22319341 to 22319628, 22319041 to 22319242. Picking an SNP from one of these regions I thought would be optimal as they seem to stand out. What do you think? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 10:11 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a > start: > > 2668557 > 2831544 > 15226727 > 14138491 > 13807060 > 13670021 > 7540762 > > These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down > and > SNP? > > Richard Reed > On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly >> evident. >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM >> To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the >> genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled >> their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in >> the >> project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, >> until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. >> >> Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may >> take >> until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong >> places >> I'm sure. >> >> Richard Reed >> >> On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" >> <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> wrote: >> >>> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >>> spread >>> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >>> with >>> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >>> by >>> the others. >>> >>> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which >>> separated >>> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >>> member to share some of those novel variants >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Nordtvedt >>> >>> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >>> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Reed >>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >>> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >>> >>> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >>> Novel >>> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >>> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >>> >>> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tested BigY? Mats ----- Original Message ----- From: "T.J. White" <tjwhite1963@gmail.com> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > This is all of great interest to me, since myself and my subclade are all > L22 NuN14. > > T.J. White > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Mats Ahlgren <ma.ahlgren@telia.com> > wrote: > >> This is what Y-full say about the snps >> >> Name position Consensus Reference >> >> Y3601 22803391 C T >> Y3602 19420298 A C >> Y3603 22298941 A G >> Y3604 22948319 G C >> Y3605 14388450 A C >> Y3606 17946911 G T >> Y3607 18124512 C T >> >> >> Mats >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> >> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch >> >> >> > The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large >> > number >> > of >> > unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" >> > tree >> > because not covered by Chromo2. >> > >> > Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are the >> > same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. >> > >> > >> > >> > Kenneth Nordtvedt >> > >> > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Mats Ahlgren >> > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM >> > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch >> > >> > Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal >> > SNPs >> > S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 >> > >> > The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 >> > territory, the other's seems to be new >> > >> > Mats >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > "All forces have been steadily employ’d to complete and delight me. ..." > > Walt Whitman, "Leaves of Grass," 14, line 1165 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in the project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may take until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong places I'm sure. Richard Reed On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison spread > sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone with > not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared by > the others. > > This just means you presently represent a separate branch which separated > quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade > member to share some of those novel variants > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM > To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of Novel > Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. > There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? > > Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have many more candidates which I have not verified yet, but here's a start: 2668557 2831544 15226727 14138491 13807060 13670021 7540762 These are all snps unique to you among hundreds tested. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:47 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* Have you any favorite tools you can recommend that will help be pin down and SNP? Richard Reed On May 20, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly > evident. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the > genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled > their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in > the > project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, > until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. > > Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may take > until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong > places > I'm sure. > > Richard Reed > > On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> > wrote: > >> If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison >> spread >> sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone >> with >> not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared >> by >> the others. >> >> This just means you presently represent a separate branch which separated >> quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade >> member to share some of those novel variants >> >> >> >> Kenneth Nordtvedt >> >> Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: >> http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Reed >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM >> To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* >> >> I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of >> Novel >> Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. >> There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? >> >> Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You don't need ftdna to identify your "private snps". That is fairly evident. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:54 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* I am that AS10b. And I plan to offer testing for a private SNP to the genetic cluster that I am part of in the Reed Project. They have cooled their interest or ran out of money or both. I am also the only 111STR in the project too. I tested very close to several non-Reed I1-m253s, in STRs, until the 94th marker where we parted very quickly. Waiting for FTDNA to identify a private SNP for my Novel Variants may take until December. And then they will upgrade the tree in all the wrong places I'm sure. Richard Reed On May 19, 2014, at 10:39 PM, "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> wrote: > If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison spread > sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone > with > not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared by > the others. > > This just means you presently represent a separate branch which separated > quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade > member to share some of those novel variants > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Reed > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM > To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* > > I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of > Novel > Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. > There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? > > Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken & all. The YFull analysis is made from BAM files from the BigY. No wonder why BigY has the same SNPs. YFull took the liberty to give them some names as FTDNA is sleeping in the corner. Mvh/Regards Nicolas Taban -------- Original message -------- From: Kenneth Nordtvedt <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> Date:19/05/2014 19:44 (GMT+01:00) To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch Yes, BigY has all them plus: 8457411, 91546920, 22237811, 22252091, 22312634, 22462185 Although some of these may even further divide NuN14. Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Mats Ahlgren Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:18 AM To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch This is what Y-full say about the snps Name position Consensus Reference Y3601 22803391 C T Y3602 19420298 A C Y3603 22298941 A G Y3604 22948319 G C Y3605 14388450 A C Y3606 17946911 G T Y3607 18124512 C T Mats ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <knordtvedt@bresnan.net> To: <y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > The S19986/S9318 branch of L22, aka NuN14 clade, has a very large number > of > unique snps from BigY as well. They are not shown in the "Chromo2L22" > tree > because not covered by Chromo2. > > Without location numbers for the Y snps, can't say whether they are the > same, but I suspect so in most cases. NuN14 seems fairly young clade. > > > > Kenneth Nordtvedt > > Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: > http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mats Ahlgren > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 AM > To: y-dna-haplogroup-i@rootsweb.com > Subject: [yDNAhgI] New L22 branch > > Yfull has a new I-L22 branch, they call it I-3601 and have terminal SNPs > S19986, S9318, Y3605, Y 3606, Y3607, Y3602, Y3603, Y3604 and Y3601 > > The two first SNPs are known from Ken's document about L22 as NuN14 > territory, the other's seems to be new > > Mats > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of Novel Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA

If you are the Reed in AS10b clade I have you in my BigY comparison spread sheet. There are many Z59+ Z60- in that spreadsheet, but you are alone with not close neighbors. You have lots of unique novel variants not shared by the others. This just means you presently represent a separate branch which separated quite early in time from the rest of Z59+ You need another AS10b clade member to share some of those novel variants Kenneth Nordtvedt Haplogroup I Clade Modalities and Trees at: http://knordtvedt.home.bresnan.net -----Original Message----- From: Richard Reed Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 8:15 PM To: Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I@rootsweb.com Subject: [yDNAhgI] Terminal SNP I1-z60* I've tested all downstream SNPs to Z60, all negative. I have a pile of Novel Variants from the BigY but not sure how to weed them or interpret them. There must be a private SNP in there somewhere. Any advice? Richard Reed Kit #N89096 FTDNA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message