In a message dated 4/14/2006 12:04:09 AM Central Standard Time, ttg-inc@comcast.net writes: For an example... I will be getting on the plane 12:30 pm [right after noon] in Dallas, I will arrive in Philadelphia around 4:36 pm, that is 3:36 my Dallas time. We will leave Philadelphia at 8:30 pm Eastern Time and that is 7:30 pm Dallas time. We will arrive in Manchester at 8:35 am UK time... which is 3:30 am Philadelphia time [5 hours later than Philadelphia time] or 2:30 am [6 hours later than Dallas time] for me. Then we get to run a FULL DAY on Thursday So..... you will probably be getting up around 7:30 ish on Wednesday morning run a long day then be getting up [IF you sleep on the plane] at either 3:30 am for the next day if your on Eastern time.. or what ever your time frame is.. mine is 2:30 am.... =) From experience, let me comment: I would make plans for some of those who are not able to go to sleep on the flight to go to their motel and sleep right after they arrive. There are too many "differences" in our lifestyle and the British to put one's self in jeopardy because one is not alert due to lack of sleep. You have to be alert, and stop and think twice, all the time you are there, or they could be bringing you home in a "wooden box". Traffic on their "propper" side of the road means vigilance if you are driving, and looking a different way if you are crossing the streets, both as a driver, and as a pedestrian. This is just one example -- there are many others. Sleeping and resting on the plane is problematic, and depends on the individual, and the other passengers. First trip over there, I was in Tourist, and some lady in a center seat had to go to the restroom every 1/2 hr, plus there were several babies crying at different times. Second trip, in Business class, two men, two seats back, played cards all night and became progressively loud as the drinks piled up. We left Atlanta, at 6 PM eastern time, flew non-stop to Heathrow, arriving about 7 AM London time. Took another flight to Teeside, and with cab to motel, arrived at 11 AM London time, totally glassy eyed. On advice from others who had done that before, we pulled the shades and went directly to bed at the motel. We got up in the evening in time for our hosts to pick us up, out for dinner, back in bed after midnight, and woke the next morning, feeling totally great for a full day at work there. Cuz Gary