Symon Thelwal = Jonet v Edwart Longffort have a great grand child that died at the Caerwys Eisteddfod!! Richard Thelwal [11] = Elizabeth v Thomas Herl [12]. [11.Richard Thelwall died at the Caerwys Eisteddfod, as he sat upon his commission, in the 2nd of Elizabeth, A.D. 1568] Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@comcast.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ "Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here we might as well dance !"