Give me a few days or maybe today if the rain keeps up. I know there are a few versions of this Ann Powell Moore marriage. There is some type of switch of surname if I remember correctly plus change from the Welsh naming system. Becky is much Moore (GRIN) organized and may post before I find my info. I have copies of a few variations here but they are buried right now and I am hoping to get outside in the yard after finishing paperwork I have been ignoring while away the last few weeks or longer. Cuz Connie In a message dated 5/19/2005 1:29:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, amy@tcg.com writes: This is where the problems start, and things differ from the notes, which list a James Humphreys born 1731 married to Ann Powell Moore as Thomas' parents. But the James I found as Thomas' father was born in 1757, and the mother's name was wrong. I thought maybe there was a James Sr and James Jr, but I couldn't find a James Humphreys born here or England around 1731 that would fit. So I searched for "Ann Powell" and "Ann Moore" being married to a Humphreys. And unfortunately I found both :(. I have to admit everything could go wrong here. Ann Powell married a James Humphreys (which could be our James Sr) on Sep 3, 1759. Ann Moore married a Jonathan Humphreys on Oct 13, 1758. Both were married at the same church in Philadelphia. I couldn't find anything else about James or Jonathan from this site. So I went back to the rootsweb site (url listed near the top of this email). I matched Jonathan to the Jonathan Jr who was married to "Ann". But there was no sign of this other James anywhere in the family tree.