I think this didn't make it out because I sent it from an address not subscribed to the list... >Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:45:41 -0400 >To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com >From: "Amy Humphries (TCG)" <amy.humphries@tcg.com> >Subject: New Humphrey Cuz found her missing link! > >Hey cuzzes, I found something! This tree at rootweb has some of my proven >ancestors on it: >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nancygwynn&id=I01912 >It lists James as Thomas's son, and born in 1731! This isn't the first >time I saw a record indicating that Thomas didn't die as a child. (I got >that he died as a child from Becky's tree). >Most of this tree agrees with the written document I have (posted at ><http://amyhumphries.com/Humphries/History/target3.html>http://amyhumphries.com/Humphries/History/target3.htm<http://amyhumphries.com/Humphries/History/target3.html>l) > > > >At 01:24 PM 5/19/2005, Amy Humphries wrote: >>Hi Cuz Jayne and other Cuzzes, >> >>Do you have more info about Jonathan Humphrey Jr's line than what is >>available through Becky's family tree on rootsweb? Also, do you know of >>a James Humphrey born around 1731? I am trying to prove that my >>conclusion about Jonathan Humphrey Jr being our ancestor is correct, but >>I have reached a dead-end. >> >>My story starts last week, when my Uncle Gerry sent me scans of old >>documents that he got from his cousin. I will put these online so you >>can see. Here you go: http://amyhumphries.com/Humphries/History/ >> >>The author of the documents says that we are descended from Daniel >>Humphrey and Hannah Wynne through one of their sons, but it is unknown >>which one. She guessed Thomas only because she had a lot of relatives >>named Thomas. >> >>So I started to try to put the pieces together from these documents and >>spending every waking minute researching online. I came up with the line >>that Becky mailed out to the group. I mailed it to my uncle, who mailed >>it to some of his other relatives, and he said he would ask me how I got >>that info. I then went back and wrote down how I came up with what I >>did, and my thought process. Afterwards, I didn't feel as confident as >>I'd like in my conclusion that Jonathan Humphrey Jr was our ancestor, >>because of the mystery man named James and the other Ann, but I don't see >>any alternatives. >> >>This is my very long response to my uncle, and the others that he emailed: >> >>____________________________________________________________________ >> >>OK, I guess I have to show how I got this info. I hope you can follow >>it. You'll see that my findings aren't conclusive under #9. But if we >>really are descendents of Daniel and Hannah Humphrey, and not some other >>Humphrey family, I think my conclusion is correct. >> >>This is a great resource, and we'll start here with Daniel Humphrey: >>http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ttg13&id=I02598 >>If you click on the "Pedigree" link you can see all his ancestors. Some >>can be traced back even earlier than 1450. Some of Hannah's relatives >>can also be traced back that far too, if you click on her or one of the >>kids and go to their Pedigree. >> >>Go back to the page for Daniel given in the link above, and click on >>Jonathan Sr. Then click on Jonathan Jr. and you'll see he was married to >>an "Ann", but his line ends there. I was working upwards from me, and >>when I was looking for a Humphrey married to Ann Moore I found him. >> >>So I'll now try to work up from me to Jonathan Jr. >> >>1. Thomas Humphries (b 1951) & Maria Collazzo >> >>Obviously I know my parents, though I put the wrong year for my Dad's >>birth. My mom was born in 1951, and my dad in 1950. I realized it after >>I sent the email. >> >>2. Gerald Humphries (b 1920) & Winnifred Keller >> >>Grandpop and Grandmom >> >>3. Charles Humphries & Margaret >> >>That's what it says in the family tree in my baby book >> >>4. Raymond Humphries (b 1879) >> >>Uncle Gerry told me his name. >> >>Now we go to familysearch.org: >>http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp >>This site is great for digging up old records. >>Search for Raymond Humphries, and you'll find one that lived in >>Philadelphia during the 1880 census. He was born in 1879. His father's >>name is Jacob, which is what it should be (see below). >> >>5. Jacob Humphries (b 1847) >> >>I got his name from the "Revolutionary Ancestor" page of the notes. I >>got his birth year by clicking on his name from Raymond's census record >>where he was listed as "Head of Household". >> >>6. Daniel Humphreys/Humphries (b 1802) & Eliza Weikel >> >>I got their names and birth year from the "Revolutionary Ancestor" page >>of the notes. I confirmed them through familysearch.org. In the >>search, "Daniel" for first name, "Humphreys" for last name, >>"Birth/Christening" for event, "+ or - 2 years" for year range and "1801" >>for year. You'll fiind him in the 1880 census as well as "Daniel >>Humphries" (note the "ies"). He was born 1802, not 1801. >> >>Go back to the search page, and put in Eliza Weikel for the name, and >>change the year range to "+ or -5 years". She was born in 1806. Her >>husband's name is misspelled as "Danile Rush Humphrey". >> >>7. Thomas Humphreys (b 1779) & Elizabeth Erwin/Rush >> >>Same as Daniel, I got the info from the "Revolutionary Ancestor" notes >>and confirmed on familysearch. I put in his name and +/- 2 years and >>1779. He's the first match, born in Philadelphia, on the exact day >>listed in the notes, but his death date is off 5 years (and 10 days). It >>lists his wife as Elizabeth Erwin, and his parents as James Humphreys and >>Mary Ann Gilyard. >> >>I clicked on Elizabeth Erwin to make sure she was the same person as >>Elizabeth Rush. The birthdate listed was 6 days off from what's listed >>in the notes, and the death date is exact. Seems to be the same person. >> >>8. James Humphreys (b ~1757) & Mary Ann Gilyard >> >>I clicked on the links to the parents from Thomas Humphreys and got these >>people. Also, James Humphreys is listed as Thomas's father in the >>"Revolutionary Ancestor" notes. >> >>9. Jonathan Humphreys Jr. (b 1735) & Ann Moore >> >>This is where the problems start, and things differ from the notes, which >>list a James Humphreys born 1731 married to Ann Powell Moore as Thomas' >>parents. But the James I found as Thomas' father was born in 1757, and >>the mother's name was wrong. I thought maybe there was a James Sr and >>James Jr, but I couldn't find a James Humphreys born here or England >>around 1731 that would fit. >> >>So I searched for "Ann Powell" and "Ann Moore" being married to a >>Humphreys. And unfortunately I found both :(. I have to admit >>everything could go wrong here. Ann Powell married a James Humphreys >>(which could be our James Sr) on Sep 3, 1759. Ann Moore married a >>Jonathan Humphreys on Oct 13, 1758. Both were married at the same church >>in Philadelphia. I couldn't find anything else about James or Jonathan >>from this site. So I went back to the rootsweb site (url listed near the >>top of this email). I matched Jonathan to the Jonathan Jr who was >>married to "Ann". But there was no sign of this other James anywhere in >>the family tree. >> >>The following is my thought process as to why I picked Jonathan over James... >> >>James was born "Abt 1757". The two couples in question got married in >>1758 and 1759. Jonathan and Ann Moore were the earlier couple. Also, >>Moore was the last name listed in our notes. Powell was her middle name, >>possible her mother's maiden name. >> >>So then I thought of it in this perspective... What if we aren't >>descendents of Jonathan Sr? Could we be Thomas's descendents? How about >>one of Daniel's other sons? Well, if this the info in this family tree >>on rootsweb is correct, this is what I get... >> >>Brother #1 - Samuel: listed as never married >>Brother #2 - Thomas: listed as died before 1717 probably as a minor >>Brother #3 - Jonathan: had 5 sons, including Jonathan Jr (and 5 >>daughters), 2 sons died as infants, including a Jacob born in 1731 that I >>thought could have been our mystery James until I saw he died at 28 days old. >>Brother #4 - Benjamin: had 1 daughter >>Brother #5 - Solomon: had 5 sons (and 2 daughters), 2 died as children, >>no decedents named James, oldest child was born in 1739 >>Brother #6 - Joshua: oldest child was born 1744, no descendents named James >>Brother #7 - Edward: listed as never married >>Brother #8 - Charles: listed as never married >> >>So my conclusion is that if we really are descended from Daniel & Hannah, >>then it must be through the Jonathans. >> >>So who is the mystery James that is married to Ann Powell? He could be a >>descendent of Daniel's brother Benjamin. They had 6 children, and there >>isn't very good info on them. I've only found names of three of them, >>daughters Elizabeth and Ann, and son Owen. There is also a Lydia listed >>as their daughter but the birth year given for her is before her parents >>were born. Owen had a daughter named Mary. And that's all we know about >>this line (except Mary's descendents, who aren't Humphries'). >> >>I will continue to research what I can. I would love to know for sure if >>I'm right, but I fear we may never know for sure. >> >>I found it interesting that since the late 1600's we've always lived >>pretty close to Philadelphia. No wonder I moved back here after college. :) >>___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >>At 10:54 AM 5/19/2005, jayne Hyslop wrote: >>>Welcome Cousin Amy ! >>> >>>Here's our Humphrey line: >>> >>>Daniel Humphrey b.1660 = Hannah Wynne >>>Benjamin Humphrey b.1701 = Esther Warner >>>Hannah Humphrey b.1729 = Abraham Tunis >>>Anthony Tunis b.1757 = Mary Thomas >>>Rees Tunis b.1788 = Sarah Binkley >>>William Tunis b.1816 = Martha Filman >>>Jacob Tunis b.1848 = Theresa Carey >>>Alma Tunis b.1888 = David Hyslop >>>John Hyslop b.1920 = Ruth Harris >>>John Hyslop b.1954 = Jayne Best >>>David Hyslop b.1988 >>> >>>I have a big Humphrey database, including some details of your line. Drop >>>me a line if I can help >>> >>>Cuz Jayne >>>Welland, Ontario, Canada >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>>ancestors, but entire generations. 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