Dear Cuz's, Below are the items that I found at the National Library of Wales in their search... the first one is the letter that I have a certified copy of and its envelope written by Dr. Thomas Wynne. [neat to see his hand writting!] NLW MSS 11342-12473 1971 11594E. LETTER OF THOMAS WYNNE. A holograph letter, 2 December, 1683, written by Tho. Wynne from Philadelphia in 'pensivanla' to his honoured friend Peirs Pennant, Esqre., at Buchtan, near Mostyn, North Wales. Thomas Wynne (1627-92), author of The Antiquity of the Quakers, Proved out of the Scriptures of Truth . . . ([ London] 1677) and An Anti-Christian Conspiracy Detected and Satan's Champion Defeated . . . ([London] 1679), emigrated to America in 1682, having with John ap John purchased of William Penn 5000 acres of land to be laid in the Welsh Tract, and he subsequently became Associate Justice of Sussex County and representative of that county in the Legislative Assembly at Philadelphia. The writer refers in a postscript to a 'braue tracke' of land in his possession called Pennant Gwyn ('on a fine descending hill and a fine spring and[e]r it'), but the letter relates otherwise to the writer's Welsh associations and in particular to the security of his Welsh estate (references to the recipient's mother and brother John, to John Salsbury of Bachegrig [Back-y-graig] and his family, to Rich. Blackburn and his family, and to the recipient's mother[-in-law] at Gwysany, the treachery of Roger Hughes and the writer's daughter, a report by daughter Betty Rowdin [Rowden] that the recipient had refused to allow the writer's goods to be removed from the recipient's house at Caerwis, the writer's treatment by Abell Kershaw and his wife, the latter' s seizure of the writer's estate at Bronvadog and their refusal to give the writer's two 'litle ones' any food and clothing for the voyage and their stealing of Betty Rowdin's flannel out of John Brigdale's house). English. XVII cent. *********************** CHIRK CASTLE (6) Part 6 of Schedule COMPILED BY G. M. GRIFFITHS 5670. 1691. ARREARS of rent in Bodiliog, Bronvadog, Skeiviog, Llanbedder, Llanrhidd and Yale. ******************** COED COCH (2) Part 2 of Schedule 1449. Counterpart of Indented deed whereby Humffrey Middleton of Garthkynan, co. Denbigh, gentleman, John Middleton of Llanvair Dyffryn cloyd, same co., and Thomas Middleton of Garthkynan, aforesaid, mortgages for £250, to Richard Jones of Eyarth, same co., a messuage and tenement called y Plasse issa, and lands called Kay vcha, Kay issa, yr Erow goch, Kay coch, y Kaye twmblyn, Erow yr gwrachiod, yr Erwi gleision y werngron, yr Erow hir Bron vadog vechan, land in tir David Dwysog, Brynnie yr llan, row llwydyn, and Gweirglodd y ffordd ddwr, in the township of Llanvair and ffynnogion, co. Denbigh, etc., with specified conditions of redemption. Dated:- 20th (?) September, 20 James I, 1622. Signature of mortgagee. Seal wanting. Witnesses:- Thomas Wynn, Robert Owen, John Thelwall, Thomas Eare, John Gruffith. Vellum. English. ************ GWYDIR Donated by the British Records Association, 1940-1 COMPILED BY GLYN PARRY, 1993 1940007 67 1806, Aug 25 1 Jefferies Spranger of Lincolns Inn, Middlesex, esq., and Edward Bray of Great Russell Street, Bloomsbury, in the said co., esq. (trustees of a term of 1,000 years) 2 Charles, viscount Sackville and Richard Henry Alexander Bennet, a captain in the Navy (trustees of a term of 200 years) 3 The said Edward Bray (trustee of a term of 5,000 years) 4 Peter, lord Gwydir, Deputy Great Chamberlain of England 5 The said Richard Henry Alexander Bennet 6 Anthony Goodeve of Grays Inn, Middlesex, gent. 7 John Letch of the same, gent. MORTGAGE (DEMISE of a residue of a term of 1,000 years) for £4,000 (5%) by 1, by the direction of 4 and at the nomination of 5, to 6 in trust for 5, of tmt's called Lledwigan, Rhibbs, Hafod, Tal y Llwyn, part of Tyddyn Evan Goch, Dolgam, Crafnant, otherwise Blaen Crafnant, Aberthllwyd, otherwise Y Borth Llwyd, Cwm Cloras Isa, Ty Hwynt Ir Gors and Frith Fawr, Dolgarrog, Brwynogucha, Cwm Cloras Ucha, Brwynog Isa, Tyddyn Gwilim, Cae Du, otherwise Tyddyn Du, Neuadd, Pen'r allt, Cwm Clorad, Ca Coch Gwan, Lletty Demlyn, Nant Isa, Tyddyn Cornel, Hendref, Bwlch, Cefn Ysgyvell, Tyddyn, otherwise Ty Isa, Ffron Felan, part of Tyddyn Evan Goch, Tai Isa, Llysgain, Bron Fadog, Nant yr Hen Bandy, part of Tyddyn Evan Goch, eight cottages ( occupants named) and parts of Llanrhechwyd mountain (occupants named), all in p. LLANRHYCHWYN, co. Caern.; DECLARATION that 2 shall stand possessed of a term of 200 years vested in them by deeds dated 30 July 1803 and 23 Apr. 1804 in trust for better securing the said mortgage to 5, and COVENANT by 3 to assign a residue of a term of 5,000 years created by the will of the late Robert, duke of Ancaster and Kesteven, in 1779, upon certain trusts which have since been performed, to 7 in trust to better secure the said mortgage for 5 Recites nos 29-30 and the creation of the terms of 200 years and 1,000 years in 1803-4 Not executed ************ NLW Deeds 2 1242-1570 1551 1750, Aug. 27 1 Francis Morgan of p. Nantmell, co. Rad., gent. 2 John Tonman of p. New Radnor, co. Rad., gent. RELEASE of one third of all the m's and lands called Pen y Lon, Bron fadog, y Tyr yn Kellws, Tyr y Buhher, Dol y gored, Dole y Dderwen, Llwyn Morfil, and Dole y Bont, in p. LLANBADARN VAUR and LLANVIHANGELL KEVEN LLYS, co. Rad. (tenants named). ********* DF635 1804, Aug. 6 1 Rev. Robert Myddleton of Gwaynynog, co. Denb., DD, and May his wife 2 Richard Barker of Chester, gent. DEED TO LEAD THE USES OF A FINE of a m. called Bryn Nannerch (36 a.), p. NANNERCH, co. Flint, and m's called Llwyn Drain and Llwyn Tu (69 a.), Tyn y Cae (67 a.), Bron yr Haul (55 a.), Tyddyn yr Halan (29 a.), Mariau Cwecwaldiaid (9 a.), Groesfan (27 a.), Llyfanod (9 a.), Bryn Shone (82 a.), Small Tenement (18 a.), Fynnon Fair (1 a.) and Bronfadog (180 a.), all in p. SKEIVIOG, to enure to the uses which 1 should appoint Attested copy (20 July 1805) ********* PENIARTH ESTATE (24) Part 24 of Schedule PENBEDW ESTATE: DEEDS (cont.) DF645 1805, Jan. 7 PARTICULARS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE of m's called Bronfadog, Bryn Shone, parcels of land called Smell, Melin Gonglog and Fynnon Fair (30 a.), m's called Groes Faen, Ty yn y Caeau, Llwyn Drain (53 a.), Llwyn Iw (15 a.) and Tyddyn yr Halan, p. YSCEIFIOG, co. Flint, and a tmt in the holding of John Mostyn in p. NANNERCH (36 a.), belonging to the Rev. Robert Myddleton, DD Endorsed: 'Bryn Nannerch New Estate' Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@comcast.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Copies, copies,; copies! Hope all is well with the Queen Mom - keep us posted, Becky. Hugs, Vi The Thill Group Inc wrote: >Dear Cuz's, > Below are the items that I found at the National Library of Wales in >their search... the first one is the letter that I have a certified copy of >and its envelope written by Dr. Thomas Wynne. [neat to see his hand >writting!] > >NLW MSS 11342-12473 >1971 > >11594E. >LETTER OF THOMAS WYNNE. >A holograph letter, 2 December, 1683, written by Tho. Wynne from >Philadelphia in 'pensivanla' to his honoured friend Peirs Pennant, Esqre., >at Buchtan, near Mostyn, North Wales. Thomas Wynne (1627-92), author of The >Antiquity of the Quakers, Proved out of the Scriptures of Truth . . . ([ >London] 1677) and An Anti-Christian Conspiracy Detected and Satan's Champion >Defeated . . . ([London] 1679), emigrated to America in 1682, having with >John ap John purchased of William Penn 5000 acres of land to be laid in the >Welsh Tract, and he subsequently became Associate Justice of Sussex County >and representative of that county in the Legislative Assembly at >Philadelphia. The writer refers in a postscript to a 'braue tracke' of land >in his possession called Pennant Gwyn ('on a fine descending hill and a fine >spring and[e]r it'), but the letter relates otherwise to the writer's Welsh >associations and in particular to the security of his Welsh estate >(references to the recipient's mother and brother John, to John Salsbury of >Bachegrig [Back-y-graig] and his family, to Rich. Blackburn and his family, >and to the recipient's mother[-in-law] at Gwysany, the treachery of Roger >Hughes and the writer's daughter, a report by daughter Betty Rowdin [Rowden] >that the recipient had refused to allow the writer's goods to be removed >from the recipient's house at Caerwis, the writer's treatment by Abell >Kershaw and his wife, the latter' s seizure of the writer's estate at >Bronvadog and their refusal to give the writer's two 'litle ones' any food >and clothing for the voyage and their stealing of Betty Rowdin's flannel out >of John Brigdale's house). English. XVII cent. > >*********************** >CHIRK CASTLE (6) >Part 6 of Schedule > >COMPILED BY G. M. GRIFFITHS > >5670. >1691. >ARREARS of rent in Bodiliog, Bronvadog, Skeiviog, Llanbedder, Llanrhidd >and Yale. > >******************** >COED COCH (2) >Part 2 of Schedule > >1449. >Counterpart of Indented deed whereby Humffrey Middleton of Garthkynan, co. >Denbigh, gentleman, John Middleton of Llanvair Dyffryn cloyd, same co., and >Thomas Middleton of Garthkynan, aforesaid, mortgages for £250, to Richard >Jones of Eyarth, same co., a messuage and tenement called y Plasse issa, and >lands called Kay vcha, Kay issa, yr Erow goch, Kay coch, y Kaye twmblyn, >Erow yr gwrachiod, yr Erwi gleision y werngron, yr Erow hir Bron vadog >vechan, land in tir David Dwysog, Brynnie yr llan, row llwydyn, and >Gweirglodd y ffordd ddwr, in the township of Llanvair and ffynnogion, co. >Denbigh, etc., with specified conditions of redemption. >Dated:- 20th (?) September, 20 James I, 1622. >Signature of mortgagee. >Seal wanting. >Witnesses:- Thomas Wynn, Robert Owen, John Thelwall, Thomas Eare, John >Gruffith. >Vellum. English. > >************ >GWYDIR >Donated by the British Records Association, 1940-1 > >COMPILED BY GLYN PARRY, 1993 > >1940007 > >67 >1806, Aug 25 >1 Jefferies Spranger of Lincolns Inn, Middlesex, esq., and Edward Bray of >Great Russell Street, Bloomsbury, in the said co., esq. (trustees of a term >of 1,000 years) >2 Charles, viscount Sackville and Richard Henry Alexander Bennet, a captain >in the Navy (trustees of a term of 200 years) >3 The said Edward Bray (trustee of a term of 5,000 years) 4 Peter, lord >Gwydir, Deputy Great Chamberlain of England 5 The said Richard Henry >Alexander Bennet >6 Anthony Goodeve of Grays Inn, Middlesex, gent. >7 John Letch of the same, gent. >MORTGAGE (DEMISE of a residue of a term of 1,000 years) for £4,000 (5%) by >1, by the direction of 4 and at the nomination of 5, to 6 in trust for 5, of >tmt's called Lledwigan, Rhibbs, Hafod, Tal y Llwyn, part of Tyddyn Evan >Goch, Dolgam, Crafnant, otherwise Blaen Crafnant, Aberthllwyd, otherwise Y >Borth Llwyd, Cwm Cloras Isa, Ty Hwynt Ir Gors and Frith Fawr, Dolgarrog, >Brwynogucha, Cwm Cloras Ucha, Brwynog Isa, Tyddyn Gwilim, Cae Du, otherwise >Tyddyn Du, Neuadd, Pen'r allt, Cwm Clorad, Ca Coch Gwan, Lletty Demlyn, Nant >Isa, Tyddyn Cornel, Hendref, Bwlch, Cefn Ysgyvell, Tyddyn, otherwise Ty Isa, >Ffron Felan, part of Tyddyn Evan Goch, Tai Isa, Llysgain, Bron Fadog, Nant >yr Hen Bandy, part of Tyddyn Evan Goch, eight cottages ( occupants named) >and parts of Llanrhechwyd mountain (occupants named), all in p. >LLANRHYCHWYN, co. Caern.; DECLARATION that 2 shall stand possessed of a term >of 200 years vested in them by deeds dated 30 July 1803 and 23 Apr. 1804 in >trust for better securing the said mortgage to 5, and COVENANT by 3 to >assign a residue of a term of 5,000 years created by the will of the late >Robert, duke of Ancaster and Kesteven, in 1779, upon certain trusts which >have since been performed, to 7 in trust to better secure the said mortgage >for 5 >Recites nos 29-30 and the creation of the terms of 200 years and 1,000 years >in 1803-4 >Not executed > >************ >NLW Deeds 2 >1242-1570 > >1551 >1750, Aug. 27 >1 Francis Morgan of p. Nantmell, co. Rad., gent. >2 John Tonman of p. New Radnor, co. Rad., gent. >RELEASE of one third of all the m's and lands called Pen y Lon, Bron fadog, >y Tyr yn Kellws, Tyr y Buhher, Dol y gored, Dole y Dderwen, Llwyn Morfil, >and Dole y Bont, in p. LLANBADARN VAUR and LLANVIHANGELL KEVEN LLYS, co. >Rad. (tenants named). > >********* >DF635 >1804, Aug. 6 >1 Rev. Robert Myddleton of Gwaynynog, co. Denb., DD, and May his wife 2 >Richard Barker of Chester, gent. >DEED TO LEAD THE USES OF A FINE of a m. called Bryn Nannerch (36 a.), p. >NANNERCH, co. Flint, and m's called Llwyn Drain and Llwyn Tu (69 a.), Tyn y >Cae (67 a.), Bron yr Haul (55 a.), Tyddyn yr Halan (29 a.), Mariau >Cwecwaldiaid (9 a.), Groesfan (27 a.), Llyfanod (9 a.), Bryn Shone (82 a.), >Small Tenement (18 a.), Fynnon Fair (1 a.) and Bronfadog (180 a.), all in >p. SKEIVIOG, to enure to the uses which 1 should appoint >Attested copy (20 July 1805) > >********* >PENIARTH ESTATE (24) >Part 24 of Schedule > >PENBEDW ESTATE: DEEDS (cont.) > >DF645 >1805, Jan. 7 >PARTICULARS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE of m's called Bronfadog, Bryn Shone, >parcels of land called Smell, Melin Gonglog and Fynnon Fair (30 a.), m's >called Groes Faen, Ty yn y Caeau, Llwyn Drain (53 a.), Llwyn Iw (15 a.) and >Tyddyn yr Halan, p. YSCEIFIOG, co. Flint, and a tmt in the holding of John >Mostyn in p. NANNERCH (36 a.), belonging to the Rev. Robert Myddleton, DD >Endorsed: 'Bryn Nannerch New Estate' > > > >Hugs Cuz B > >ttg-inc@comcast.net >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

So Becky. Are you going to provide copies of the good doctor's handwriting for all of us? That would be neat to have. I have located some paperwork associated with another of my ancestors, but I don't know if he actually wrote it himself or not - and I wish I did know if it was his writing. Hope your life is settling down a bit. One can have too much excitement - at least of the negative kind. And hope your mom is doing well - or at least as well as she can with the medical treatment she is going through. My sister went through chemo several years ago - but, and here is an idea for you, she got tea of some sort from a Chinese doctor and even the same day as her chemo treatment did not feel as poorly when she took the tea. Regards, Cousin JoanB ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:26 AM Subject: [WGS] Bron Fadog/Bron Vadog/bronvadog/bronfadog > Dear Cuz's, > Below are the items that I found at the National Library of Wales in > their search... the first one is the letter that I have a certified copy > of > and its envelope written by Dr. Thomas Wynne. [neat to see his hand > writting!]

It would be wonderful to see Dr. Wynn's handwriting and have a copy.....!!............Cuz, .Thera. Joan Bretz <jbretz1@earthlink.net> wrote:So Becky. Are you going to provide copies of the good doctor's handwriting for all of us? That would be neat to have. I have located some paperwork associated with another of my ancestors, but I don't know if he actually wrote it himself or not - and I wish I did know if it was his writing. Hope your life is settling down a bit. One can have too much excitement - at least of the negative kind. And hope your mom is doing well - or at least as well as she can with the medical treatment she is going through. My sister went through chemo several years ago - but, and here is an idea for you, she got tea of some sort from a Chinese doctor and even the same day as her chemo treatment did not feel as poorly when she took the tea. Regards, Cousin JoanB ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Thill Group Inc" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:26 AM Subject: [WGS] Bron Fadog/Bron Vadog/bronvadog/bronfadog > Dear Cuz's, > Below are the items that I found at the National Library of Wales in > their search... the first one is the letter that I have a certified copy > of > and its envelope written by Dr. Thomas Wynne. [neat to see his hand > writting!] ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dear Cuz Joan II, The handwriting is the letter he sent back to Wales in 1683, I believe you got a copy of it with the baptismal papers you copied at the reunion..didn't you? As to Mom, well it has been a long haul through this chemo. They have almost lost her twice, but she is done with it now and trying to recoup before the radiation starts. It will be after our family reunion for her side of the family that is held the 3rd weekend of June, we are hoping she will be well enough to attend it, as we are hosting it this year. But with everyone's prayers we will make it though, we are made of stout stuff. =), thanks for all your thoughts and prayers. Sorry, that I have not been able to keep everything flying this spring, but just too much on my plate. Everyone needs to jump in and start sharing what they are working on and what they have found. Also, everyone needs to check out their line on my website and be sure that I have the sources that you guys have on your family line, so we can start working on the source version of the Deems book. Hugs Cuz Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Bretz" <jbretz1@earthlink.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [WGS] Bron Fadog/Bron Vadog/bronvadog/bronfadog > So Becky. Are you going to provide copies of the good doctor's handwriting > for all of us? That would be neat to have. I have located some paperwork > associated with another of my ancestors, but I don't know if he actually > wrote it himself or not - and I wish I did know if it was his writing. > > Hope your life is settling down a bit. One can have too much excitement - > at least of the negative kind. And hope your mom is doing well - or at least > as well as she can with the medical treatment she is going through. My > sister went through chemo several years ago - but, and here is an idea for > you, she got tea of some sort from a Chinese doctor and even the same day as > her chemo treatment did not feel as poorly when she took the tea. > > Regards, > > Cousin JoanB > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> > To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:26 AM > Subject: [WGS] Bron Fadog/Bron Vadog/bronvadog/bronfadog > > > > Dear Cuz's, > > Below are the items that I found at the National Library of Wales in > > their search... the first one is the letter that I have a certified copy > > of > > and its envelope written by Dr. Thomas Wynne. [neat to see his hand > > writting!] > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >