Someone asked me this question and I figured I would cross post to both lists [WGS and WINN] If they were related to Sir Watkin Williams [Wynn] d. 1749. Were they a Wynn. Yes but not paternally they are related maternally. Why? Because.... i.e. The Dictionary of Welsh Biography Down to 1940. Under the Auspices of The Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, 20 Bedford Square, London, 1959, Pg 1093 - 1109 [Wynn - Wynne] Pg. 1100 The eldest son of this marriage was Sir Watkin Williams [Wynn] [d. 1749] who in 1740, inherited not only his father's title and estates but also, through his MOTHER the estate of Wynnstay, which had passed into the possession of Sir John Wynn [d. 1718/9], the last baronet of the direct Gwydir line, through his marriage with the heiress of Eyton Evans of Watstay [the old name of the mansion and the estate] After his succession to this estate Sir Watkin Williams adopted 'Wynn' as an additional surname. .... Just thought I would send on the tidbit. Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@comcast.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/