Re. travel to Caerwys, Wales from Manchester, please excuse my throwing in my two cents. My name is Linda Shabo. am interested in making trip and Becky, hopefully, will vouch for me. I am descended from Thomas Wynne through his daughter Sydney. Anyway, I have traveled by train in the U.K and also by car. Wales is not well served by trains. Train travel in Britain is good between major destinations- many trains on these major routes and no long waits for when there may be another tain on the route. Caerwys is not a major destination. It is possible to travel by train from Manchester to Holywell, but we don't know how often a train to Holywell will run. Holywell is 89 kms. from Manchester and 13 kilometers from Caerwys, a km.=.6 or 6/10 of a mile. Group would have to have car (road) transportation, especially if members need to be able to nearby towns including Denbigh Castle which is associated with our family (the Langfords and Thelwells) and do some research. I think group would do well to consult with folks at Caerwys to see what they suggest. Becky has mentioned wanted to ask Mayor Philip. Regarding airfare to Manchester. June is high season, so a typical fare from Atlanta to Manchester high season averages 399-499 pounds (multiply by 1.8) to get dollar figure. There is a surcharge (additional cost) for anyone wishing to travel on days other than Monday-Thursday. May travel would result in a cheaper, shoulder fare, not high season-nor low (winter). In short, May could well save group an average of $200.00 per ticket. However, it is my understanding that some members of the group can not travel in May? Re. road travel to Caerwys. I would want to travel by train to Chester which is connected to Manchester (several trains per day) and is 71 kms from Manchester and 39 kms. from Caerwys because it is possible to rent a car in Chester and going to Chester avoids having to drive a car out of Manchester which is very large and carries recommendations from both Michelin and Triple A not to drive on Motorway if you can avoid it. Our last trip to Wales and Ireland (we took car on ferry to Ireland), we took train from London to Cardiff, Wales where we were met for Enterprise Rental staff with car and, thus, avoided driving in a very populous area. It is bad enough that cars in U.K. (lest anyone ever forget) drive on the LEFT side of the road and that most car (those which don't cost big time) are manual shift, end result is driver sits on right side of car shifting with left hand while trying to remember to stay on left side of the road. Linda .

Dear Cuz Linda and other Cuz's, And yes I can vouch for her, we have been working on a project for the last month, Oh and the book arrived!! Ok back to Wales, Mayor Phillip said that we should travel in June because it was before the raising of rates because July is when school is out and the rates go up. He also recommended that we go into Manchester because it is cheaper and that is how he flies to the US several times a year and finds it easier and cheaper to fly from. He is also the one that recommended we take the train to Caerwys as it was the easiest way to travel with a semi large group, compared to all trying to drive, and or renting a bus. He made it sound like the train came to Caerwys many times a day and wasn't a problem. But that is just what he said, what do I know =) This is why we are discussing the ways and whys, but I want to talk to Phillip first so we can get some real facts to things he may have planned etc. As to the June and not May, sorry but many can't travel in May due to schools, colleges etcs, but the other reason was cost of flights. Hugs Cuz Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Shabo" <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [WGS] Wales > Re. travel to Caerwys, Wales from Manchester, please excuse my throwing > in my two cents. My name is Linda Shabo. am interested in making > trip and Becky, hopefully, will vouch for me. I am descended from > Thomas Wynne through his daughter Sydney. > > Anyway, I have traveled by train in the U.K and also by car. Wales is > not well served by trains. Train travel in Britain is good between > major destinations- > many trains on these major routes and no long waits for when there may > be another tain on the route. > > Caerwys is not a major destination. It is possible to travel by train > from Manchester to Holywell, but we don't know how often a train > to Holywell will run. Holywell is 89 kms. from Manchester and 13 > kilometers from Caerwys, a km.=.6 or 6/10 of a mile. > > Group would have to have car (road) transportation, especially if > members need to be able to nearby towns including Denbigh Castle which > is associated with our family (the Langfords and Thelwells) and do some > research. > > I think group would do well to consult with folks at Caerwys to see what > they suggest. Becky has mentioned wanted to ask Mayor Philip. > > Regarding airfare to Manchester. June is high season, so a typical fare > from Atlanta to Manchester high season averages 399-499 pounds > (multiply by 1.8) to get dollar figure. There is a surcharge > (additional cost) for anyone wishing to travel on days other than > Monday-Thursday. > > May travel would result in a cheaper, shoulder fare, not high season-nor > low (winter). In short, May could well save group an average of > $200.00 per ticket. However, it is my understanding that some members > of the group can not travel in May? > > Re. road travel to Caerwys. I would want to travel by train to Chester > which is connected to Manchester (several trains per day) and is > 71 kms from Manchester and 39 kms. from Caerwys because it is possible > to rent a car in Chester and going to Chester avoids having > to drive a car out of Manchester which is very large and carries > recommendations from both Michelin and Triple A not to drive on > Motorway if you can avoid it. Our last trip to Wales and Ireland (we > took car on ferry to Ireland), we took train from London to > Cardiff, Wales where we were met for Enterprise Rental staff with car > and, thus, avoided driving in a very populous area. It is bad enough > that cars in U.K. (lest anyone ever forget) drive on the LEFT side of > the road and that most car (those which don't cost big time) are manual > shift, end result is driver sits on right side of car shifting with left > hand while trying to remember to stay on left side of the road. > > Linda > > > > > . > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Dear Linda, I am also a descendent of Dr. Thomas Wynne through his daughter Sydney. I live in Hershey, Penna. Would love to have contact with you. Lv, Merle ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Shabo <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [WGS] Wales > Re. travel to Caerwys, Wales from Manchester, please excuse my throwing > in my two cents. My name is Linda Shabo. am interested in making > trip and Becky, hopefully, will vouch for me. I am descended from > Thomas Wynne through his daughter Sydney. > > Anyway, I have traveled by train in the U.K and also by car. Wales is > not well served by trains. Train travel in Britain is good between > major destinations- > many trains on these major routes and no long waits for when there may > be another tain on the route. > > Caerwys is not a major destination. It is possible to travel by train > from Manchester to Holywell, but we don't know how often a train > to Holywell will run. Holywell is 89 kms. from Manchester and 13 > kilometers from Caerwys, a km.=.6 or 6/10 of a mile. > > Group would have to have car (road) transportation, especially if > members need to be able to nearby towns including Denbigh Castle which > is associated with our family (the Langfords and Thelwells) and do some > research. > > I think group would do well to consult with folks at Caerwys to see what > they suggest. Becky has mentioned wanted to ask Mayor Philip. > > Regarding airfare to Manchester. June is high season, so a typical fare > from Atlanta to Manchester high season averages 399-499 pounds > (multiply by 1.8) to get dollar figure. There is a surcharge > (additional cost) for anyone wishing to travel on days other than > Monday-Thursday. > > May travel would result in a cheaper, shoulder fare, not high season-nor > low (winter). In short, May could well save group an average of > $200.00 per ticket. However, it is my understanding that some members > of the group can not travel in May? > > Re. road travel to Caerwys. I would want to travel by train to Chester > which is connected to Manchester (several trains per day) and is > 71 kms from Manchester and 39 kms. from Caerwys because it is possible > to rent a car in Chester and going to Chester avoids having > to drive a car out of Manchester which is very large and carries > recommendations from both Michelin and Triple A not to drive on > Motorway if you can avoid it. Our last trip to Wales and Ireland (we > took car on ferry to Ireland), we took train from London to > Cardiff, Wales where we were met for Enterprise Rental staff with car > and, thus, avoided driving in a very populous area. It is bad enough > that cars in U.K. (lest anyone ever forget) drive on the LEFT side of > the road and that most car (those which don't cost big time) are manual > shift, end result is driver sits on right side of car shifting with left > hand while trying to remember to stay on left side of the road. > > Linda > > > > > . > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >