Joyce, Thanks for the info - I have a Nancy Wynn m. Wm. James in Warren Cty IN on Feb. 11, 1845. I think they had two children. Wm died (no date) and I know that Nancy was a housekeeper for a Bickell or Bicknell family - this family seemed to have traveled with the Wynns to So. MN - they were also in Cass Cty. IN. Vi Joyce Quigley wrote: >Anybody interested in this? You never know. Miss everybody. Love Queenie >----- Original Message ----- >From: Joyce Quigley<mailto:JOYCEWWYNNE@msn.com> >To: Queenie Joyce Wynne-Quigley<mailto:JoyceWWYNNE@msn.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:31 PM >Subject: Fw: JAMES Family Info > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sam D. Lawson<mailto:bulldog2429@voyager.net> >To: PA-WELSH-EARLY-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PA-WELSH-EARLY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:07 PM >Subject: JAMES Family Info > > >Hi, > >I have family of JAMES... > >I have a Messech JAMES, from Wales, that was in the Fort Loudon, Pennsylvania area. > >Following is an overview of the James documents (with some Wayt details thrown >in) that a friend found and shared with me at the Cumberland Co., PA, Historical Society during the >summer of 1994. (Credit given to the friend that found this): > >[Note: Peters Township is now located in Franklin Co., PA; I could not find the >location of Lack Twp.] > >1748 Sept 30 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >Mesech James patented tract 14A82 > >1755 Nov 1 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >Mesech James died...murdered by Indians > >1763 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >John Waight paid tax > >1764 May 1 Cumberland Co., PA >Elizabeth James, daughter of Mesech & Mary died > >1765 May 21 Cumberland Co., PA >Final act in the administration of the estate of Meisock James; Mary >James-widow; Children: Enoch, Mary and Elizabeth (deceased) > >1765 May 21 Cumberland Co., PA >Mary James, age 15, daughter of Meisack James deceased, chose David Davis as >guardian > >1765 Aug 20 Cumberland Co., PA >Enoch James, above age 14, son of Mesach James deceased, chose David Bown as >guardian > >1765 Aug 20 Cumberland Co., PA >Andrew Wait and Mary James married by Rev. John C. Bucher > >1765 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >John Wate[?] paid tax > >1767 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >Andrew Weight paid tax > >1768 Lack, Twp >John Weights paid tax > >1768 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >Andrew Wey't paid tax > >1769 Lack Twp >John Weats paid tax > >1769 Lack Twp >Andrew Waits paid tax > >1770 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >Andrew West paid tax > >1770 Lack Twp >John Waits paid tax > >1782 Feb 24 Peters Twp, Cumberland Co., PA >Enoch James signed quit claim to tract 14A82 > >1782 Apr 8 Bedford Co., PA >Mary Owen of little Cove, daughter of Mesech James, sold part of tract 14A82 in >Peters Township, Cumberland Co., PA. > >At first I thought that the daughter married our Andrew Wayt, but the last item >indicates that she did not-in 1782 she lived in Bedford County, a widow of Mr. >Owen. The coincidence of the August 20 guardianship/wedding makes it seem more >likely that Andrew Wayt married the widow. The wedding day of Andrew Wayt and >Mary James was the very same day that Widow James was relieved of the >responsibility of rearing 14 year-old Enoch. This scenario, however poses other >problems or questions. >- If Widow James had a 15 year-old daughter, she must have been at least age 30 >in 1765-too old to be producing children in the 1790's, when Andrew's youngest >children were born (John Wayt was born in 1792; Martha and James are believed >to be even younger.) >- It is possible that Widow James was the step-mother of the James children and >was therefore younger than 30 years of age; however, she couldn't have been >much younger; she had been a widow for ten years by 1765. >- If Andrew Wayt married a widow whose married name was James, we need to do >some research to find her maiden name. >- Maybe this is the wrong James family-although the coincidence of the dates >and townships is hard to overlook. >- Perhaps Mary James Wayt died and Andrew Wayt married another woman named Mary >(who was younger) in western Pennsylvania. Between Andrew's marriage in 1765 >and about 1774, there seem to be no births. Then suddenly after about 1775, ten >children come in fairly rapid succession. > >Following are word-for-word copies of the documents relating to the James >family of Peters Township: > > >Date: 1765 May 21; Source: from files in Cumberland Co. Historical Society > >Meisock James - Mary James Adm > letters no date >Final act May 2 1 - 1765 - J. No 3 >[per] the estate of Meisock James decd >to Mary James Admx >to maintaining and clothing children of the decd >from Nov 1st 1755 to 1st May 1756 = 6 mo # 20 lbs >to maintaining & clothing Enock one of >the children 2 yrs from that date 10 lbs >to maintaining & clothing Mary one of >the children 2 yrs from that date 10 lbs >to maintaining & clothing Elizabeth one >of the children from that time to 1 May >1764 6 yrs 40 lbs >Funeral ex[pense?] of sd Elizabeth funeral 1 lb 5 sh >Total 31 lbs 5 sh > > >Date: 1765 May 21; Source: Orphans' Court Docket 2 Cumberland Co., PA, p. 53 > >At an Orphans Court held at Carlisle for the County of Cumberland the twenty >first day of May in the year of our Lord One thousand seven hundred and Sixty >five >before John Byers Andrew Calhoun John Holmes Robert Miller John McKnight and >Jonathan Hogg [or Hogy] Esq Justices of the same Court > >Came into Court Mary James Minor Daughter of Meisack James late of >Cumberland County Deceasd of the age of fifteen years and Chose David Davis >Guardian over her person & Estate During her Minority the Court do Consider >and Appoint the said David Davis Guardian over the person & Estate of the said >Mary James During her Minority > >Date: 1765 Aug 20 Source: Orphans Court Docket 2 Cumberland Co., PA, p. 58 > >At an Orphans Court held at Carlisle for Cumberland County the twentyeth >day of August in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & Sixty five >Before John Byers Robert Miller & William Lyons Esq: Justices of the Same Court > >Enoch James a Minor Son of Mesach James late of Cumberland County deced >above the age of fourteen years Signified his Consent & desire that David Bown >be Chosen guardian over his person & Estate During his Minority the Court do >Consider & appoint the said David Bown Guardian over the person & Estate of >the said Enoch James During his Minority > >Date: 1765 Aug 20 Source: Cumberland Co., PA Marriages 1761-1817, compiled by >Susan Penrod, SW PA Gen. Services, 1983, p. 36, item # 1117. > >WAIT, Andrew, and Mary JAMES, married 20 Aug 1765 by Rev John C. Bucher > >Date: 1782 Source: Cumberland Co. Archives, (1) I: Deed Abstracts and Mortgage >Book index 1776-1785, Vol. II, p. 402, 403 (F 369-70 and F370-71). > >F369-70 Enoch JAMES, John ROSS & wf. Jean, Owen DAVIS & wf. Hanna:mark, and >David BOWEN & wf. Sarah, late of Cumberland Co., quit claim to Mary OWENS, late >of Cumberland Co., 1lb to each grantor and her quit claim to the rest of >original tract. >53 a. 58 p. on West Conococheague Creek: mulberry on the west band of >Conococheague Creek near the fording, widow Feyley N52W120 hickory N59E120 elm, >down Conococheague Creek 104 hickory W70 post S4E66. > [?] part of tract by propr. patent 30 September 1748, 14A82, to Mesech JAMES; >grantee's share "as one of the Heirs of Mesech JAMES devided by Consent of the >heirs and Nicholas ?FERYLEY?." >24 February1782 Samuel WOODBRIDGE, Thomas HARROD >24 February [1782?] JAMES and the BOWENs before Thomas WILSON 13 March 1783 the >ROSSes and DAVISes before Robert RICHEY, Westmoreland Co., 25 June 1783 > >F370-71 Mary OWEN, widow of Little Cove, Bedford Co., gr. to Samuel WOODBRIDGE >of New Castle Co., Delaware, 150 lbs. >53 a. 58 p. in Peters Twp.: hickory on Conococheague Creek, W70 post S4E66 >mulberry N52 W120 hickory N59E104. >Part of tract by propr. patent, 14A82, to Mesech JAMES, grantor's father; it is >part of her legacy. >In April 1792 Enoch JAMES, John CUNNINGHAM >8 April 1782 J[ames] MAXWELL 25 June 1783 > >Does any of this sound familiar? Please let me know. We are from Hannah JAMES, daughter of Messech JAMES. Hannah JAMES married to Owen DAVIS as his second wife, the first being Sarah PHILLIPS. > >Thanks, >Sam D. Lawson > > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > >