Hi again. here is a link that does not have our line but has the other two brothers. Robert and Ieuan. Our line from Robin would be C. according to Sir John of Gwydir. _http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ww/wales07.htm#dau1_ (http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ww/wales07.htm#dau1) Cuz Connie