Hi from Minnesota! I can't remember if I ever sent this info out to the group, so I'll do it again. What is interesting on this man is that his children would be a cross between Northern (Ky) and Southern (NC) Winn families. Well, maybe KY isn't exactly Northern, but some of our guys are from there. Comments? Anyone claim him? Cuz Vi Monroe Winn Monroe Winn came in 1854, and settled on section 31, where he still resides. Monroe Winn is a native of Hancock county, Indiana, and was born August 7, 1832. His parents were Isaac and Rachel (Winn) Winn, both natives of Kentucky. Monroe was the fifth child in a family of seven children. His early life was spent in assisting his father on the farm. At the age of twenty-one years he removed to Iowa, taking a team, and locating for eight months at Winterset. He then came to Adair county, locating in Washington township. He has a fine farm of two hundred acres, containing both tember and prairie land, well adapted for both stock and grain. He was united in marriage June 15, 1855, to Miss Phoebe Cox, a native of North Carolina, and daughter of Isaac and Seely (Williams) Winn. They have eight children--Lorenzo, Frank, Charles, Edward, Harvey, Theodore, Eveline and Alice.

Thanks, Susannah. Cuz Vi from MN Swbenson@aol.com wrote: >This is a rough draft not a finished product. I find treasures as I gradually >go through my mother's files. > >Written sometime after 1966 as we visited Wales and Bronfodag in August 1966 >and EAB did research in the London archives in September and October of that >year. She refers to the difficulty of finding records in the Rolls Office in >London. By late 1970s early 1980s she was declining and did not do much writing >or research. She died October 13, 1993. > >Cousin Susannah Benson > >Transcription of a rough draft written by Evelyn Abraham Benson. Transcribed >by Susannah Benson, June 12, 2005 > >A biography of Dr. Thomas Wynne, Welsh Quaker, can be written today with >confidence because information in Britain and Pa public records, Quaker >records, the Penn papers and other historical manuscripts has been brought to light >in the last hundred years by his descendants in Pa and by those concerned >with William Penn's founding of Pa. > >An account of Wynne's ancestry, attempted several times by his descendants >cannot be either precise or satisfactory because Welsh family records and >property transfers are not as clear as English records for the same early period. > >Even after Edward I in 1284 made Wales subject to English law the Welsh >retained their own ancient name system and the customs of gavelkind, i.e. equal >division of land among all heirs of a descendent and little if any land transfer >recorded in public record offices and acquired only by kinship. > >If a man had no children his property automatically went to his closest >relatives and this relationship was not recorded. It was committed to memory by the >Welsh bards or poet-singers and by the families themselves: Acquisition of >property depended on ability to recite your ancestry correctly. A man had good >reason to memorize his genealogy. It was his brief of title to land and home. > >As a result of this system people did not move from one area to another and >we can be sure that everyone living in a specific area was related, that they >had a common ancestor many generations earlier who had conquered this land or >received it from a chieftain. > >Both archaeology and Roman accounts of the invasions of Britain establish >that Roman legions were quartered in Flintshire once Roman roads traversed it. >The manuscript of an ancient Welsh bard may be the clue to Thomas Wynne's blood >line (and strong character). > >In a way this puts Welsh genealogy before the time of Henry VIII into the >realm of myth and legend. Our faith in medieval genealogies may be shaken, too, >by the genealogy of Queen Elizabeth II which takes her back to a son of Noah >born on the ark. > >By the act of Henry VIII (date?) Land transfers (a chief genealogical source >of information) were to be recorded. Many of these are in the Rolls Office in >London, but not indexed and very difficult to locate. > >The chief difference in Welsh and English land inheritance lay in English >primogenitor; i.e. the eldest son was heir to the estate, and Welsh gavelkind: >All children of the deceased inherited equal amounts. The Welsh inheritance s >ystem was based on an ancient tribal custom whereby all the land in a certain >area belonged to a specific family. It could not be sold - it could be... > >"Rewrite" written in margin of the following paragraph: > >Even after legislation of Henry VIII the Welsh tended to stay in their >ancient home areas though some property transfers exist if they could be located. > >Henry VIII law also aimed to establish surnames for the Welsh, but few of >them complied. Even some families coming to Penna before and after 1700 used the >ancient nomenclature. For instance; John ap Thomas and Cadwallader ap Thomas >were brothers. Adopting the modern customer after settling here, the male >descendants of John ap Thomas are all named Jones (son of John). His nephew John >Cadwallar (last letters not clear) son of Cadwalled ap Thomas joined the family >in Pa and all his male descendants bear the distinguished sounding surname >Cadwallader. > >It was John ap Thomas who gave us in his will (1682) Thomas Wynne's address >of Bronfadog near Caerwys in Flintshire Wales. Thomas Wynne, in (EAB wrote >lightly here apparently intending to check dates "or 162...") Quaker pamphlet gave >his address as Caerwys and said that he lived near where he was born. The >register of the nearby Bofarin Parish Church indicates that unlike most of their >neighbors his family had adopted a surname as recommended by Henry VIII. The >baptismal entry below is believed to refer to our Thomas: > >translate > >Parish adjoins Bodfari > > > > > I help busy people organize their pictures > & tell their stories in safe, simple albums. > > "Our albums aren't expensive .... they're priceless." > >Susannah Benson, Unit Leader > >My 14 years of experience as a Creative Memories Consultant >Can Help YOU Complete Albums and/or Build a Business! > >Contact me TODAY: swbenson@aol.com or 717-464-0963 > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. 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This is a rough draft not a finished product. I find treasures as I gradually go through my mother's files. Written sometime after 1966 as we visited Wales and Bronfodag in August 1966 and EAB did research in the London archives in September and October of that year. She refers to the difficulty of finding records in the Rolls Office in London. By late 1970s early 1980s she was declining and did not do much writing or research. She died October 13, 1993. Cousin Susannah Benson Transcription of a rough draft written by Evelyn Abraham Benson. Transcribed by Susannah Benson, June 12, 2005 A biography of Dr. Thomas Wynne, Welsh Quaker, can be written today with confidence because information in Britain and Pa public records, Quaker records, the Penn papers and other historical manuscripts has been brought to light in the last hundred years by his descendants in Pa and by those concerned with William Penn's founding of Pa. An account of Wynne's ancestry, attempted several times by his descendants cannot be either precise or satisfactory because Welsh family records and property transfers are not as clear as English records for the same early period. Even after Edward I in 1284 made Wales subject to English law the Welsh retained their own ancient name system and the customs of gavelkind, i.e. equal division of land among all heirs of a descendent and little if any land transfer recorded in public record offices and acquired only by kinship. If a man had no children his property automatically went to his closest relatives and this relationship was not recorded. It was committed to memory by the Welsh bards or poet-singers and by the families themselves: Acquisition of property depended on ability to recite your ancestry correctly. A man had good reason to memorize his genealogy. It was his brief of title to land and home. As a result of this system people did not move from one area to another and we can be sure that everyone living in a specific area was related, that they had a common ancestor many generations earlier who had conquered this land or received it from a chieftain. Both archaeology and Roman accounts of the invasions of Britain establish that Roman legions were quartered in Flintshire once Roman roads traversed it. The manuscript of an ancient Welsh bard may be the clue to Thomas Wynne's blood line (and strong character). In a way this puts Welsh genealogy before the time of Henry VIII into the realm of myth and legend. Our faith in medieval genealogies may be shaken, too, by the genealogy of Queen Elizabeth II which takes her back to a son of Noah born on the ark. By the act of Henry VIII (date?) Land transfers (a chief genealogical source of information) were to be recorded. Many of these are in the Rolls Office in London, but not indexed and very difficult to locate. The chief difference in Welsh and English land inheritance lay in English primogenitor; i.e. the eldest son was heir to the estate, and Welsh gavelkind: All children of the deceased inherited equal amounts. The Welsh inheritance s ystem was based on an ancient tribal custom whereby all the land in a certain area belonged to a specific family. It could not be sold - it could be... "Rewrite" written in margin of the following paragraph: Even after legislation of Henry VIII the Welsh tended to stay in their ancient home areas though some property transfers exist if they could be located. Henry VIII law also aimed to establish surnames for the Welsh, but few of them complied. Even some families coming to Penna before and after 1700 used the ancient nomenclature. For instance; John ap Thomas and Cadwallader ap Thomas were brothers. Adopting the modern customer after settling here, the male descendants of John ap Thomas are all named Jones (son of John). His nephew John Cadwallar (last letters not clear) son of Cadwalled ap Thomas joined the family in Pa and all his male descendants bear the distinguished sounding surname Cadwallader. It was John ap Thomas who gave us in his will (1682) Thomas Wynne's address of Bronfadog near Caerwys in Flintshire Wales. Thomas Wynne, in (EAB wrote lightly here apparently intending to check dates "or 162...") Quaker pamphlet gave his address as Caerwys and said that he lived near where he was born. The register of the nearby Bofarin Parish Church indicates that unlike most of their neighbors his family had adopted a surname as recommended by Henry VIII. The baptismal entry below is believed to refer to our Thomas: translate Parish adjoins Bodfari I help busy people organize their pictures & tell their stories in safe, simple albums. "Our albums aren't expensive .... they're priceless." Susannah Benson, Unit Leader My 14 years of experience as a Creative Memories Consultant Can Help YOU Complete Albums and/or Build a Business! Contact me TODAY: swbenson@aol.com or 717-464-0963

Queenie - You should have grabbed some lettuce and had an internal salad. In MN we are singing Rain, rain, go away. Hugs Cuz Vi Joyce Quigley wrote: >Dear All, This is one I cannot keep to myself. I need a laugh and I sure got one. I know you do not really care about crazy things like this, but those who do--this is for you(and me). I usually fill my empty water bottle with whatever juice is left in the refrig. with gingerale. Just before this, Bob offered to clean the refrig. and rearrange so it would be easier for us to find things(his peanutbutter).I was so pleased and thanked him. The next day, I decided to have a gingerale and cranberry juice mixed together in my water bottle. Ok here is what happened- In the middle of the night with my bottle near by, I was thristy and took a small sip and started to cough. I at that time thought it went down the wrong pipe so to say. Later that night I tried again, and this time I told Bob(Koth) that there was something wrong with my throat. I was as Bob scared that something was really wrong. I stopped drinking from the bottle. We waited and I seem fine. The next day, I found tha! t! > Bob had put the Red Wine Vinegar(Gia-Russa) in the place where I kept my cranberry juice. So, watch when your cheese is moved. Love Queenie 1234 > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >

Dear Cuz's, Mary Leitner is now subscribed to our WGS e-mail list... below find her family line she needs some help in the Chew Pierpoint Taylor line..... Please jump forward and help her out, if your from that line!!! Hugs Cuz Becky..... READ BELOW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary K Leitner" <maryleitner@sbcglobal.net> To: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE Here is my line starting with Doctor Wynne: THOMAS DOCTOR WYNNE + MARTHA ELIZABETH BUTTALL SYDNEY WYNNE + WILLIAM CHEW SYDNEY CHEW + CHARLES PIERPOINT CAELIB PIERPOINT + THOMAS TAYLOR Here is my Gap! I cannot go any further back although some has suggested this: THOMAS TAYLOR + EVA BALL ````````````````````````````````````````` I am Mary Kathryn Prideaux Leitner My husband is Eugene Francis Leitner (Austria/Hungary descent) ````````````````````````````````````````` I will go backwards to Thomas & Caleb Taylor ```````````````````````````````````````` My Parents: JOHN HENRY PRIDEAUX +BERTHA TWILA THRELKEL Her line takes us back to The William Penn through her great grandfather & grandmother PETER THRELKELD & POLLY WASHINGTON CARTER D/O HENRY CARTER (1752-1835) + FRANCES PENN (1754-????) JOHN HENRY'S PARENTS: FRANK PRIDEAUX +LOUISE ARMINDA TAYLOR D/O HENRY TAYLOR (1824-1931) age 107 + ARMINDA EASTMAN (1834-1894), D/O LEVI S. EASTMAN (1800-1827) & MARGARET BUCHANAN (1808-1857) THOMAS TAYLOR (1793-1877) + PENELOPE RICHARDS ( 1796-1875) D/O JAMES RICHARDS (1758-????) +ANN OR JANE (1760-????) "This line goes to Bird/Byrd families. THOMAS TAYLOR (1750-????) + SARAH MUSGROVE ( 1762-????) THOMAS TAYLOR (1728-1797) + CAELIB PIERPOINT (1736-1783) None is proven. I do not know how to do this. This has been handed down from other researchers, other families and visits to cemeteries in Butler County, Kentucky & Bell County, Missouri. I have pictures of Thomas & Penelope Richards Taylor's graves in Grant County, Wisconsin. Through my Kansas Library card I have found census records on some. Do I need birth & death certificates? I am nearing age 76, so I am worried that it will never get finished. Thanks for any help. You have helped me in the past. Thanks, Mary K Leitner P.S. I know we connect to the Presidents Harrison's, but how? e-mail: maryleitner@sbcglobal.net URL: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=mkl1949

Dear Queenie, I wonder if yours tasted any better than my warmed up Manhattan mix??!! As a child, I had bad asthma. My doctor told me to drink something hot when I got up in the morning and before going to bed. The only thing I liked warm at that time was consommé soup (clear liquid broth) that we kept in a jar in the refrigerator after the can was opened. One evening as I became old enough to do it myself, I warmed up the Manhattan mix which was also kept in a jar!! Love, Princess Di -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Quigley [mailto:JOYCEWWYNNE@msn.com] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:48 PM To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WGS] Off Off Topic Dear All, This is one I cannot keep to myself. I need a laugh and I sure got one. I know you do not really care about crazy things like this, but those who do--this is for you(and me). I usually fill my empty water bottle with whatever juice is left in the refrig. with gingerale. Just before this, Bob offered to clean the refrig. and rearrange so it would be easier for us to find things(his peanutbutter).I was so pleased and thanked him. The next day, I decided to have a gingerale and cranberry juice mixed together in my water bottle. Ok here is what happened- In the middle of the night with my bottle near by, I was thristy and took a small sip and started to cough. I at that time thought it went down the wrong pipe so to say. Later that night I tried again, and this time I told Bob(Koth) that there was something wrong with my throat. I was as Bob scared that something was really wrong. I stopped drinking from the bottle. We waited and I seem fine. The next day, I found that! Bob had put the Red Wine Vinegar(Gia-Russa) in the place where I kept my cranberry juice. So, watch when your cheese is moved. Love Queenie 1234 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Dear Queenie, You are so funny. Did you have at least one eye opened [since it was in the middle of the night] and Don't you have a light in the refrigerator? That was sweet of Koth doing that but tell him to put the vinegar with the other spices and things that go with each other in a certain area in the refrig. LOL We can't have anything bad happen to you. Well here is my "funny" for you. At the first of the week I had a very squeaky voice and my foot was bothering me. It was aching and started swelling. The way it all started together I told everyone here I came up with a new "Foot and Mouth" disease. But I guess I had a touch of laryngitis and I went yesterday to a foot doctor. I have a stress fracture in my left foot and have a walking cast on for 2 weeks. Well, I love you and keep out of the red vinegar. Tell Koth and girls hello for me. Love Joyce Gail -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Quigley [mailto:JOYCEWWYNNE@msn.com] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:48 PM To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WGS] Off Off Topic Dear All, This is one I cannot keep to myself. I need a laugh and I sure got one. I know you do not really care about crazy things like this, but those who do--this is for you(and me). I usually fill my empty water bottle with whatever juice is left in the refrig. with gingerale. Just before this, Bob offered to clean the refrig. and rearrange so it would be easier for us to find things(his peanutbutter).I was so pleased and thanked him. The next day, I decided to have a gingerale and cranberry juice mixed together in my water bottle. Ok here is what happened- In the middle of the night with my bottle near by, I was thristy and took a small sip and started to cough. I at that time thought it went down the wrong pipe so to say. Later that night I tried again, and this time I told Bob(Koth) that there was something wrong with my throat. I was as Bob scared that something was really wrong. I stopped drinking from the bottle. We waited and I seem fine. The next day, I found that! Bob had put the Red Wine Vinegar(Gia-Russa) in the place where I kept my cranberry juice. So, watch when your cheese is moved. Love Queenie 1234 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Dear All, This is one I cannot keep to myself. I need a laugh and I sure got one. I know you do not really care about crazy things like this, but those who do--this is for you(and me). I usually fill my empty water bottle with whatever juice is left in the refrig. with gingerale. Just before this, Bob offered to clean the refrig. and rearrange so it would be easier for us to find things(his peanutbutter).I was so pleased and thanked him. The next day, I decided to have a gingerale and cranberry juice mixed together in my water bottle. Ok here is what happened- In the middle of the night with my bottle near by, I was thristy and took a small sip and started to cough. I at that time thought it went down the wrong pipe so to say. Later that night I tried again, and this time I told Bob(Koth) that there was something wrong with my throat. I was as Bob scared that something was really wrong. I stopped drinking from the bottle. We waited and I seem fine. The next day, I found that! Bob had put the Red Wine Vinegar(Gia-Russa) in the place where I kept my cranberry juice. So, watch when your cheese is moved. Love Queenie 1234

Dear Queenie, Ha ha ha, yup totally understand. As everyone knows my middle daughter moved home after her divorce back in December. She tends to put things where she "thinks" they should go, not where we have always put them. Not intentionally mind you.. just does. We have had many of "grab the wrong thing" happening this spring!!! You sure it wasn't the troops? Love 1234 Cuz B trying to get her "other side of the family" family reunion done by next week. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Quigley" <JOYCEWWYNNE@msn.com> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: [WGS] Off Off Topic > Dear All, This is one I cannot keep to myself. I need a laugh and I sure got one. I know you do not really care about crazy things like this, but those who do--this is for you(and me). I usually fill my empty water bottle with whatever juice is left in the refrig. with gingerale. Just before this, Bob offered to clean the refrig. and rearrange so it would be easier for us to find things(his peanutbutter).I was so pleased and thanked him. The next day, I decided to have a gingerale and cranberry juice mixed together in my water bottle. Ok here is what happened- In the middle of the night with my bottle near by, I was thristy and took a small sip and started to cough. I at that time thought it went down the wrong pipe so to say. Later that night I tried again, and this time I told Bob(Koth) that there was something wrong with my throat. I was as Bob scared that something was really wrong. I stopped drinking from the bottle. We waited and I seem fine. The next day, I found that! > Bob had put the Red Wine Vinegar(Gia-Russa) in the place where I kept my cranberry juice. So, watch when your cheese is moved. Love Queenie 1234 > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I tried David Beeghly from Pennsylvania, James Houston from Alabama, and Marion Sandy from Tennessee, all of which I have copies of their records from the microfilm in the Huntsville library. When it started searching it could not find any of them, and when I did Advanced search it gave me a long list which had first names and last names all mixed up, and none matched the ones that I know are there. So.. not very much confidence from my end! Cuz Gary

Don't waste your time on this...It can't find anything!

I searched Wynn and Wynne, found lots with wives names on it and where it was they were from. Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: <Glhughes59@aol.com> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Fw: [GenSIG] Ancestry Civil War databases FREE! > I tried David Beeghly from Pennsylvania, James Houston from Alabama, and > Marion Sandy from Tennessee, all of which I have copies of their records from > the microfilm in the Huntsville library. > When it started searching it could not find any of them, and when I did > Advanced search it gave me a long list which had first names and last names all > mixed up, and none matched the ones that I know are there. So.. not very much > confidence from my end! > > Cuz Gary > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

P.S. That is under the Pension part. Hugs Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: <Glhughes59@aol.com> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Fw: [GenSIG] Ancestry Civil War databases FREE! > Don't waste your time on this...It can't find anything! > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Ummmmm Cuz Gary, I found a Wynn from Minn. Which is prob. one of Vi's guys. I found several from Ohio and from Pa which are our guys... etc etc... So I think it is worth looking at. Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: <Glhughes59@aol.com> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Fw: [GenSIG] Ancestry Civil War databases FREE! > Don't waste your time on this...It can't find anything! > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Becky, Cuz Thera here.....I have found in my research that 87 years would not be unusual at all......at just about anytime.....I also wondered if this Jonathan Wynn could be a minor child who needed care....or would this have been worded in a way that we would have known it was a child they were speaking of.......We don't always hear and know about all the children of a family....especially before the census started recording them.....Thera....... The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@comcast.net> wrote:Dear Rainy Cuz Vi, As he died 8 years after this note in the minutes, I don't think it applied to his health, I wouldn't think.. maybe, maybe not. I did ask Mary Wood about it, she is from the Merion Meeting.. she said usually that term "care" is used if there is a financial need, as in contributing so they had food or home to live in.. but that doesn't apply to Jonathan as he had means and so did the next couple of generations... She also said it was used if a member had been ill, and they tried to help as in working fields or things of that sort that he could not do but would effect the family's well being. Well, ok he could have been sick? There is soooo little on Jonathan it is a bit frustrating but again he didn't die for 8 more years. I don't know of any other Jonathan Wynne...... UNLESS.... [Connie you listening???] would it be the mysterious John Wynne, Dr. Thomas Wynne's brother? He would have been 87 years old in 1712.. he was born 1625 [two years older than Dr. T]. But wouldn't that be very unusual for that time for a life span of 87 years? ...But... didn't one of the Humphrey's live to their eighties?.... Hummmm.... The only other John Wynne that I know of is Jonathan Wynne/Sarah Greaves son John Wynne he would have been 15 years old at the time..but that doesn't seem like something that would be put in the minutes if it was a kid's illness. Wonder Wonder, Mystery in deed. Love Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Jonathan Wynne .... 1/8/1712... > Hi, > I kept this email for awhile to ponder what it might mean. > > First, we should be cautious about what "care" means - is there anyway > to find out what the duties of Quaker Overseers were at this time? > > Two, do we have a copy of Jonathan's will? When was it written, and > what does it say about "being weak of body, but sound of mind???? > Jonathan was about 42 when this note from Merion was written. > > Mystery! > > Cuz Vi of the Rainy, Rainy North > > > The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > >Minutes of Radnor Monthly Meeting: Including Merion, Haverford, &c., > >1684-1733 > >Att our Monthly Meeting held at Haverford Meeting House 8th of ye 11th Month > >1712. > >2dly It is desired that the Overseers of Meirion meeting Continue their care > >in relation to Jonathan Wynne. > > > > > >Becky's note: I put this with Jonathan Wynne b. 1669 d. 2/28/1720 simply > >because I can find no other Jonathan Wynne that was alive in the area.... > >Now this puzzles me as Sarah Greaves Wynne lived for 20 more years... so... > >why would they need to care for him? > >Who else could this belong to? > > > >Hugs Cuz B > >ttg-inc@comcast.net > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Dear Rainy Cuz Vi, As he died 8 years after this note in the minutes, I don't think it applied to his health, I wouldn't think.. maybe, maybe not. I did ask Mary Wood about it, she is from the Merion Meeting.. she said usually that term "care" is used if there is a financial need, as in contributing so they had food or home to live in.. but that doesn't apply to Jonathan as he had means and so did the next couple of generations... She also said it was used if a member had been ill, and they tried to help as in working fields or things of that sort that he could not do but would effect the family's well being. Well, ok he could have been sick? There is soooo little on Jonathan it is a bit frustrating but again he didn't die for 8 more years. I don't know of any other Jonathan Wynne...... UNLESS.... [Connie you listening???] would it be the mysterious John Wynne, Dr. Thomas Wynne's brother? He would have been 87 years old in 1712.. he was born 1625 [two years older than Dr. T]. But wouldn't that be very unusual for that time for a life span of 87 years? ...But... didn't one of the Humphrey's live to their eighties?.... Hummmm.... The only other John Wynne that I know of is Jonathan Wynne/Sarah Greaves son John Wynne he would have been 15 years old at the time..but that doesn't seem like something that would be put in the minutes if it was a kid's illness. Wonder Wonder, Mystery in deed. Love Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" <davidvi@uslink.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Jonathan Wynne .... 1/8/1712... > Hi, > I kept this email for awhile to ponder what it might mean. > > First, we should be cautious about what "care" means - is there anyway > to find out what the duties of Quaker Overseers were at this time? > > Two, do we have a copy of Jonathan's will? When was it written, and > what does it say about "being weak of body, but sound of mind???? > Jonathan was about 42 when this note from Merion was written. > > Mystery! > > Cuz Vi of the Rainy, Rainy North > > > The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > >Minutes of Radnor Monthly Meeting: Including Merion, Haverford, &c., > >1684-1733 > >Att our Monthly Meeting held at Haverford Meeting House 8th of ye 11th Month > >1712. > >2dly It is desired that the Overseers of Meirion meeting Continue their care > >in relation to Jonathan Wynne. > > > > > >Becky's note: I put this with Jonathan Wynne b. 1669 d. 2/28/1720 simply > >because I can find no other Jonathan Wynne that was alive in the area.... > >Now this puzzles me as Sarah Greaves Wynne lived for 20 more years... so... > >why would they need to care for him? > >Who else could this belong to? > > > >Hugs Cuz B > >ttg-inc@comcast.net > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi, I kept this email for awhile to ponder what it might mean. First, we should be cautious about what "care" means - is there anyway to find out what the duties of Quaker Overseers were at this time? Two, do we have a copy of Jonathan's will? When was it written, and what does it say about "being weak of body, but sound of mind???? Jonathan was about 42 when this note from Merion was written. Mystery! Cuz Vi of the Rainy, Rainy North The Thill Group Inc wrote: >Minutes of Radnor Monthly Meeting: Including Merion, Haverford, &c., >1684-1733 >Att our Monthly Meeting held at Haverford Meeting House 8th of ye 11th Month >1712. >2dly It is desired that the Overseers of Meirion meeting Continue their care >in relation to Jonathan Wynne. > > >Becky's note: I put this with Jonathan Wynne b. 1669 d. 2/28/1720 simply >because I can find no other Jonathan Wynne that was alive in the area.... >Now this puzzles me as Sarah Greaves Wynne lived for 20 more years... so... >why would they need to care for him? >Who else could this belong to? > >Hugs Cuz B >ttg-inc@comcast.net >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >

Some great links posted to me by Cuz Marilyn: Sources for Research in Wales Genealogy http://www.loc.gov/rr/genealogy/bib_guid/welsh-pedigrees.html National Library of Wales http://www.llgc.org.uk/ht/ht_s015.htm Principle Sources and Useful Books http://www.rhodriapdafydd.ukonline.co.uk/page7.html Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@comcast.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Minutes of Radnor Monthly Meeting: Including Merion, Haverford, &c., 1684-1733 Att our Monthly Meeting held at Haverford Meeting House 8th of ye 11th Month 1712. 2dly It is desired that the Overseers of Meirion meeting Continue their care in relation to Jonathan Wynne. Becky's note: I put this with Jonathan Wynne b. 1669 d. 2/28/1720 simply because I can find no other Jonathan Wynne that was alive in the area.... Now this puzzles me as Sarah Greaves Wynne lived for 20 more years... so... why would they need to care for him? Who else could this belong to? Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@comcast.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/