Correction already Thomas Griffiths son Peter married Elizabeth daughter of Peter Pennant. So Peter Pennant's daughter was married to a decendnat of Ithel Vychan and Peter Pennant's granddaughter married Alexander Wynne of Tower. Thomas Griffith's brother Peter married Elizabeth daughter of Peter Pennant of Bighton. Do you have a headache now??? Peter and Elizabeth Pennants daughter Jane married first Alexander Wynne born 1614 Tower Mold Flintshire. HAPPY FOURTH Cuz Connie

Becky you may be the only one to understand this. Sorry to the rest of you. This popped up while looking at Robert of Canterbury. I gave you before Evans of Northop from Shropshire visitations as more of the Wynne's from Ithel Vychan. Davaid ap Ithel married Agneta dau of Wm ap Kenrick their son Ithell ap David married Margret daughter of James Conway then Margret daughter to David Lloyd their son Ivan married Margaret daughter of James Doway Their son Ellis Evans married Winifrid daughter of Thomas Hackluit of Herfordshire Their son Thomas Evans of Northop married Katerine daughter of John Conway Their daughter Catherine married Thomas Griffith buried Caerwys 1618 Thomas Griffith's brother Peter married Elizabeth daughter of Peter Pennant of Bighton. Do you have a headache now??? Peter and Elizabeth Pennants daughter Jane married first Alexander Wynne born 1614 Tower Mold Flintshire. HAPPY FOURTH Cuz Connie

Your welcome Happy 4th! Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" <davidvi@uslink.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [WGS] 4th of July 2005 - OFF TOPIC =) > Thanks for the message, Becky. > Cuz Vi > > The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > >Dear Cuz's, > > Please go to the following link for your 4th of July page!!! > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/4thofjuly.html > >Will take a minute to load! > > > >Happy 4th of July, Let freedom ring! God Bless America!!! > > > >Hugs Cuz B > >ttg-inc@comcast.net > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Thanks for the message, Becky. Cuz Vi The Thill Group Inc wrote: >Dear Cuz's, > Please go to the following link for your 4th of July page!!! >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/4thofjuly.html >Will take a minute to load! > >Happy 4th of July, Let freedom ring! God Bless America!!! > >Hugs Cuz B >ttg-inc@comcast.net >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/ > > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >

Dear Cuz's, Please go to the following link for your 4th of July page!!! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/4thofjuly.html Will take a minute to load! Happy 4th of July, Let freedom ring! God Bless America!!! Hugs Cuz B ttg-inc@comcast.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ttg13/

Dear Cuz Vi, Nope haven't heard from Freda, I put her on there as a maybe to myself, until you talked to her. I know at one time she said she wanted to go, but its been a while. freda@rea-alp.com Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Alban" <davidvi@uslink.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales- back up helpers! > Becky, > Did you get a response from Freda Vanselow. I see her name on > the list. My computer was down for a day and when it got up, I > did not have part of my address book and I lost Freda's email > address. If you have it, please send it to me. > Actually David is not going to Wales - just Vi. > Vi > > The Thill Group Inc wrote: > > >P.S. I am keeping a list of who is wanting to go to Wales, this is who has > >e-mailed in the last week. > >... > >Diane Boulavsky 2 ppl > >Amy Humphries 1 ppl > >Susan & Cada Grove 2 ppl > >Connie Conley 1 ppl > >Linda Shabo 2 ppl. > >Kathleen Spurgeon 2 ppl. > >JoAnn Goble 2 ppl > >Millicent Newmiller 1 ppl > >Jerry & Doris Wynn 2 ppl. > >Jo & Judy Downs 2 ppl. > >Terry Hardgrave 2 ppl. > >Judy & Ron Winn 2 ppl. > >Vi & David Alban 2 ppl. > >Freda Vanselow 1 ppl. > >Queenie & Koth [Bob] Quigley 2 ppl. > >Jayster & Patsy Weidenbach 2 ppl. > >Betty and Dick McGehee > > > >Hugs Cuz Becky keeping her list and checking it twice > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> > >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:32 PM > >Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales- back up helpers! > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Cuz's, > >> 1. Until I talk to Mayor Phillip on his return from vacation, nothing > >> > >> > >is > > > > > >>going forward as far as planning goes. Thanks for all the idea's etc but > >>sorry nothing is going to be decided in the next 12 days. > >> 2. Once Mayor Phillip gets back and I have a discussion with him then > >> > >> > >the > > > > > >>time will be decided and all other things and information will come into > >>play. > >> 3. I have two major projects in my lap, a.] Caerwys-town.com website to > >>finish, b.] a paying job that comes before all or I can't do thins... > >> > >> > >SO... > > > > > >>until I get these two off my lap and Mayor Phillip gets back...just know > >>that nothing is decided other than the week we are going. > >> ok? ok.... =) > >>I do need to know who all is going and how many in your group, so keep > >> > >> > >that > > > > > >>coming. > >>Hugs Cuz B > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Linda Shabo" <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> > >>To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:08 PM > >>Subject: [WGS] Wales-we need to wait > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Becky has suggested that we wait until we can find out more regarding > >>>plans being made by Caerwys. > >>> > >>>The city government of this small town (mayor) has indicated that they > >>>will want to help group. We are supposing that this > >>> > >>>would include transportation from airport in Manchester to Caerwys, a > >>>reception of some sort, and help with finding accomodations > >>> > >>>in and near Caerwys. > >>> > >>>I was confused by Connie's reference to Llangollen which is Denbigshire > >>>as a place where members of group might want to stay. > >>> > >>>Caerwys (in Flintshire) is 45 kms. from Llangollen. Becky indicated > >>>that the folks in Caerwys might give group some help in arranging > >>> > >>>transportation about Flintshire-Denbigshire. I don't think Llangollen > >>>will work for anyone who does not have a car. > >>> > >>>Wynnstay is a hotel (probably named for the residence of a family > >>>related to Dr. Thomas Wynne who built their Wynnstay built about time > >>> > >>> Dr. Wynne emigrated and Dr. Wynne's son Jonathan, of course, named his > >>>home, built about the same time-Wynnstay). > >>> > >>>Best Western has two hotels in named Wynnstay, one in Snowdonia and the > >>>other in Chester-neither accessible to Caerwys except by > >>> > >>>car or van. > >>> > >>>Re. air travel, we should have a lot of people traveling from different > >>>places in the US on different airlines. I will be flying from Atlanta, > >>>for example. > >>> > >>>Cuz Linda from Way Down in Dixie > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>============================== > >>>New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > >>> > >>> > >ancestors > > > > > >>at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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Becky, Did you get a response from Freda Vanselow. I see her name on the list. My computer was down for a day and when it got up, I did not have part of my address book and I lost Freda's email address. If you have it, please send it to me. Actually David is not going to Wales - just Vi. Vi The Thill Group Inc wrote: >P.S. I am keeping a list of who is wanting to go to Wales, this is who has >e-mailed in the last week. >... >Diane Boulavsky 2 ppl >Amy Humphries 1 ppl >Susan & Cada Grove 2 ppl >Connie Conley 1 ppl >Linda Shabo 2 ppl. >Kathleen Spurgeon 2 ppl. >JoAnn Goble 2 ppl >Millicent Newmiller 1 ppl >Jerry & Doris Wynn 2 ppl. >Jo & Judy Downs 2 ppl. >Terry Hardgrave 2 ppl. >Judy & Ron Winn 2 ppl. >Vi & David Alban 2 ppl. >Freda Vanselow 1 ppl. >Queenie & Koth [Bob] Quigley 2 ppl. >Jayster & Patsy Weidenbach 2 ppl. >Betty and Dick McGehee > >Hugs Cuz Becky keeping her list and checking it twice >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:32 PM >Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales- back up helpers! > > > > >>Dear Cuz's, >> 1. Until I talk to Mayor Phillip on his return from vacation, nothing >> >> >is > > >>going forward as far as planning goes. Thanks for all the idea's etc but >>sorry nothing is going to be decided in the next 12 days. >> 2. Once Mayor Phillip gets back and I have a discussion with him then >> >> >the > > >>time will be decided and all other things and information will come into >>play. >> 3. I have two major projects in my lap, a.] Caerwys-town.com website to >>finish, b.] a paying job that comes before all or I can't do thins... >> >> >SO... > > >>until I get these two off my lap and Mayor Phillip gets back...just know >>that nothing is decided other than the week we are going. >> ok? ok.... =) >>I do need to know who all is going and how many in your group, so keep >> >> >that > > >>coming. >>Hugs Cuz B >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Linda Shabo" <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> >>To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:08 PM >>Subject: [WGS] Wales-we need to wait >> >> >> >> >>>Becky has suggested that we wait until we can find out more regarding >>>plans being made by Caerwys. >>> >>>The city government of this small town (mayor) has indicated that they >>>will want to help group. We are supposing that this >>> >>>would include transportation from airport in Manchester to Caerwys, a >>>reception of some sort, and help with finding accomodations >>> >>>in and near Caerwys. >>> >>>I was confused by Connie's reference to Llangollen which is Denbigshire >>>as a place where members of group might want to stay. >>> >>>Caerwys (in Flintshire) is 45 kms. from Llangollen. Becky indicated >>>that the folks in Caerwys might give group some help in arranging >>> >>>transportation about Flintshire-Denbigshire. I don't think Llangollen >>>will work for anyone who does not have a car. >>> >>>Wynnstay is a hotel (probably named for the residence of a family >>>related to Dr. Thomas Wynne who built their Wynnstay built about time >>> >>> Dr. Wynne emigrated and Dr. Wynne's son Jonathan, of course, named his >>>home, built about the same time-Wynnstay). >>> >>>Best Western has two hotels in named Wynnstay, one in Snowdonia and the >>>other in Chester-neither accessible to Caerwys except by >>> >>>car or van. >>> >>>Re. air travel, we should have a lot of people traveling from different >>>places in the US on different airlines. I will be flying from Atlanta, >>>for example. >>> >>>Cuz Linda from Way Down in Dixie >>> >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> >>> >ancestors > > >>at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> >> >> >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > > >>rgetid=5429 >> >> >>============================== >>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> >> >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

Dear Becky, My husband and I are very interested in this trip and will make a decision once you have more information on the cost. Princess Di -----Original Message----- From: The Thill Group Inc [mailto:ttg-inc@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:59 PM To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales - I need more info, please. Dear Cuz Millie, and others Ok this is the plan. The third week of June 2006 is the target date. Exactly what day and for how many days may vary, according to a lot of things. Mayor Phillip has left for a long delayed vacation for 12 days so I can't talk to him until he returns to confirm the time frames I need to figure out before we set a exact date. After I speak to him I am going to be contacting a travel group to set up what we can to get a cheap flight cost to Manchester, England. Then it is recommended that we take a train to Caerwys, a 45 min trip. Then we have to talk about housing, as there are only so many places to stay, etc... So I am going to work up some questions and need everyone to answer it honestly. As to cost, .. Mayor Phillip said that it should cost us about what it cost me to stay at the hotel last year at the reunion which was around $1,000.00 But.... I would say that $2000.00 would be more like it. But I could be wrong.... That is what I want to find out... Ok.. I will send the questionnaire in a bit. Hugs Cuz Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Millicent Newmiller" <dux50@comcast.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales - I need more info, please. > Can anyone give me more info on this trip? Like the cost..is the 3rd > weekend the date?...How long's the trip?...where to we leave from? > > Please? > Millicent (Wynn) Newmiller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> > To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales > > > > Dear Queenie, > > I am going to Wales, and who ever is going with me will be too. > > Third weekend in June 2006 is what I am aiming at. Hugs 1234 Love > > Cuz B > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joyce Quigley" <JOYCEWWYNNE@msn.com> > > To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:20 PM > > Subject: [WGS] Wales > > > > > > > Are we still going to Wales? Love Queenie 1234 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors > > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn > > more: > > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > > rgetid=5429 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > > the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > > more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

P.S. I am keeping a list of who is wanting to go to Wales, this is who has e-mailed in the last week. ... Diane Boulavsky 2 ppl Amy Humphries 1 ppl Susan & Cada Grove 2 ppl Connie Conley 1 ppl Linda Shabo 2 ppl. Kathleen Spurgeon 2 ppl. JoAnn Goble 2 ppl Millicent Newmiller 1 ppl Jerry & Doris Wynn 2 ppl. Jo & Judy Downs 2 ppl. Terry Hardgrave 2 ppl. Judy & Ron Winn 2 ppl. Vi & David Alban 2 ppl. Freda Vanselow 1 ppl. Queenie & Koth [Bob] Quigley 2 ppl. Jayster & Patsy Weidenbach 2 ppl. Betty and Dick McGehee Hugs Cuz Becky keeping her list and checking it twice ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales- back up helpers! > Dear Cuz's, > 1. Until I talk to Mayor Phillip on his return from vacation, nothing is > going forward as far as planning goes. Thanks for all the idea's etc but > sorry nothing is going to be decided in the next 12 days. > 2. Once Mayor Phillip gets back and I have a discussion with him then the > time will be decided and all other things and information will come into > play. > 3. I have two major projects in my lap, a.] Caerwys-town.com website to > finish, b.] a paying job that comes before all or I can't do thins... SO... > until I get these two off my lap and Mayor Phillip gets back...just know > that nothing is decided other than the week we are going. > ok? ok.... =) > I do need to know who all is going and how many in your group, so keep that > coming. > Hugs Cuz B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Shabo" <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> > To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:08 PM > Subject: [WGS] Wales-we need to wait > > > > Becky has suggested that we wait until we can find out more regarding > > plans being made by Caerwys. > > > > The city government of this small town (mayor) has indicated that they > > will want to help group. We are supposing that this > > > > would include transportation from airport in Manchester to Caerwys, a > > reception of some sort, and help with finding accomodations > > > > in and near Caerwys. > > > > I was confused by Connie's reference to Llangollen which is Denbigshire > > as a place where members of group might want to stay. > > > > Caerwys (in Flintshire) is 45 kms. from Llangollen. Becky indicated > > that the folks in Caerwys might give group some help in arranging > > > > transportation about Flintshire-Denbigshire. I don't think Llangollen > > will work for anyone who does not have a car. > > > > Wynnstay is a hotel (probably named for the residence of a family > > related to Dr. Thomas Wynne who built their Wynnstay built about time > > > > Dr. Wynne emigrated and Dr. Wynne's son Jonathan, of course, named his > > home, built about the same time-Wynnstay). > > > > Best Western has two hotels in named Wynnstay, one in Snowdonia and the > > other in Chester-neither accessible to Caerwys except by > > > > car or van. > > > > Re. air travel, we should have a lot of people traveling from different > > places in the US on different airlines. I will be flying from Atlanta, > > for example. > > > > Cuz Linda from Way Down in Dixie > > > > > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Dear Cuz Kathleen, Yes they are getting through Kathleen. Glad your on the mend, understand about the funds, there too. Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Spurgeon" <kahspur16@verizon.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WGS] test...are my e-mails getting through > >From: Kathleen Spurgeon <kahspur16@verizon.net> > Thanks for the info and it seems y e-mails are getting thru..Am feeling better...still get too tired. Went to see West Side Story show in Phila last night. It was great. > Love and hugs, Cuz, > Kathleen.....$2000 might be pretty steep. is that for one person. Depends on whether our vending machines are paid off so the profit is ours. > > > > >Date: Thu Jun 30 11:33:40 CDT 2005 > >To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [WGS] test...are my e-mails getting through > > >From: Judy Winn <j-winn2@tamu.edu> > >Same for Orval and I, depending on cost. > >Hopefully we can make it > >Hugs, Cuz, > >Kathleen > > > >Date: Wed Jun 29 08:23:22 CDT 2005 > >To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: {not a subscriber} Re: Fw: [WGS] Wales > > > >Becky, > >Ron and I would also like to go, depending on the cost. > > > >Judy Winn > > > >>>> ttg-inc@comcast.net 6/28/2005 9:36 PM >>> > > > >Dear Cuz Kathleen, > > I put you back on the WGS e-mail list. > >As to the Wales trip, I am sure that there will be just one day of "Stuff" > >at Caerwys, with the Mayor etc. But I thought we should also go to Hawarden > >and look into the archives etc.... So right now I am saying probably a > >Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday type of deal... but I don't know. I will > >talk to Mayor Phillip and ask him what he has up his sleeves. > > I would like everyone to give me a count of people they are bring with > >them... so I can give an idea to Mayor Phillip as to how many are coming or > >at least trying to. > > I know for me I will go alone unless we hit it rich, then it will be > >Hubby, kids and spouses, and my folks. So it will all just be according to > >costs etc. > >Hugs Cuz Becky > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Kathleen Spurgeon" <kahspur16@verizon.net> > >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:22 PM > >Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Fw: [WGS] Wales > > > > > >> >From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@comcast.net> > >> Becky, how many days are planned for Wales? > >> Cuz, Kathleen > >> > >> > > > > > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > >Kathleen M. Spurgeon > > > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > Kathleen M. Spurgeon > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Dear Cuz's, 1. Until I talk to Mayor Phillip on his return from vacation, nothing is going forward as far as planning goes. Thanks for all the idea's etc but sorry nothing is going to be decided in the next 12 days. 2. Once Mayor Phillip gets back and I have a discussion with him then the time will be decided and all other things and information will come into play. 3. I have two major projects in my lap, a.] Caerwys-town.com website to finish, b.] a paying job that comes before all or I can't do thins... SO... until I get these two off my lap and Mayor Phillip gets back...just know that nothing is decided other than the week we are going. ok? ok.... =) I do need to know who all is going and how many in your group, so keep that coming. Hugs Cuz B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Shabo" <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [WGS] Wales-we need to wait > Becky has suggested that we wait until we can find out more regarding > plans being made by Caerwys. > > The city government of this small town (mayor) has indicated that they > will want to help group. We are supposing that this > > would include transportation from airport in Manchester to Caerwys, a > reception of some sort, and help with finding accomodations > > in and near Caerwys. > > I was confused by Connie's reference to Llangollen which is Denbigshire > as a place where members of group might want to stay. > > Caerwys (in Flintshire) is 45 kms. from Llangollen. Becky indicated > that the folks in Caerwys might give group some help in arranging > > transportation about Flintshire-Denbigshire. I don't think Llangollen > will work for anyone who does not have a car. > > Wynnstay is a hotel (probably named for the residence of a family > related to Dr. Thomas Wynne who built their Wynnstay built about time > > Dr. Wynne emigrated and Dr. Wynne's son Jonathan, of course, named his > home, built about the same time-Wynnstay). > > Best Western has two hotels in named Wynnstay, one in Snowdonia and the > other in Chester-neither accessible to Caerwys except by > > car or van. > > Re. air travel, we should have a lot of people traveling from different > places in the US on different airlines. I will be flying from Atlanta, > for example. > > Cuz Linda from Way Down in Dixie > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Thanks, Connie, I've been wondering how it is pronounced! Cuz, Susan -------------- Original message from GramereC@aol.com: -------------- > Caerwys (Care Wiss) > > A few miles west of Holywell, the tiny settlement of Caerwys (Care Wiss) > proudly proclaims itself as the smallest town in Britain, for it was restored > to > town status with its own mayor in 1974 after the period since 1886 as a mere > Parish. Caerwys was granted its first borough status as early as 1290 by > Edward I, having earlier received a charter from Henry III. The town also > boasts > of containing the oldest lived-in house in Wales, with parts of a 1480 > dwelling remaining in an 1800 alteration. > > Cuz Connie > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Becky has suggested that we wait until we can find out more regarding plans being made by Caerwys. The city government of this small town (mayor) has indicated that they will want to help group. We are supposing that this would include transportation from airport in Manchester to Caerwys, a reception of some sort, and help with finding accomodations in and near Caerwys. I was confused by Connie's reference to Llangollen which is Denbigshire as a place where members of group might want to stay. Caerwys (in Flintshire) is 45 kms. from Llangollen. Becky indicated that the folks in Caerwys might give group some help in arranging transportation about Flintshire-Denbigshire. I don't think Llangollen will work for anyone who does not have a car. Wynnstay is a hotel (probably named for the residence of a family related to Dr. Thomas Wynne who built their Wynnstay built about time Dr. Wynne emigrated and Dr. Wynne's son Jonathan, of course, named his home, built about the same time-Wynnstay). Best Western has two hotels in named Wynnstay, one in Snowdonia and the other in Chester-neither accessible to Caerwys except by car or van. Re. air travel, we should have a lot of people traveling from different places in the US on different airlines. I will be flying from Atlanta, for example. Cuz Linda from Way Down in Dixie

OK Becky Now I know you are busy but here is a question or two. Are we going to try and arrange group travel say from Baltimore BWI to Manchester UK? Manchester to where ever? There is no answer right now because the airlines only go out about 330 days for reservations. We need to start seriously checking next month or by September. Do you want to handle checking group travel or are we to form little groups and make travel arrangements? Don't want to step on your toes. I am assuming you are making arrangements with Mold Town Council on the UK end but not positive. What is Mayor Phillips correct name title etc? There is a Hostel in Llangollen Denbigshire but I Don't know how many folks are up for that type of experience. It is usually less expensive. There is a Wynnstay in Wrexham and a Wynnstay in Machynlleth Powys, and a Wynstay Arms in Ruthin if anyone wants a Wynnstay tour. There are records in Denbigshire, Flintshire, Conwy, Wrexham and Ceredigion. I would have to add Shropeshire and the circular walk which includes Dr. Thomas house in Yeiks the fog to anything I wanted to do. That looks like a 10 day trip and some type of car rental no matter how it is sliced to me. Calm down I am not expecting all those to be answered today just wondering how to plan. Cuz Connie

Caerwys (Care Wiss) A few miles west of Holywell, the tiny settlement of Caerwys (Care Wiss) proudly proclaims itself as the smallest town in Britain, for it was restored to town status with its own mayor in 1974 after the period since 1886 as a mere Parish. Caerwys was granted its first borough status as early as 1290 by Edward I, having earlier received a charter from Henry III. The town also boasts of containing the oldest lived-in house in Wales, with parts of a 1480 dwelling remaining in an 1800 alteration. Cuz Connie

Becky Just count me in on going and out on planning. Cuz Connie

Dear Cuz Linda and other Cuz's, And yes I can vouch for her, we have been working on a project for the last month, Oh and the book arrived!! Ok back to Wales, Mayor Phillip said that we should travel in June because it was before the raising of rates because July is when school is out and the rates go up. He also recommended that we go into Manchester because it is cheaper and that is how he flies to the US several times a year and finds it easier and cheaper to fly from. He is also the one that recommended we take the train to Caerwys as it was the easiest way to travel with a semi large group, compared to all trying to drive, and or renting a bus. He made it sound like the train came to Caerwys many times a day and wasn't a problem. But that is just what he said, what do I know =) This is why we are discussing the ways and whys, but I want to talk to Phillip first so we can get some real facts to things he may have planned etc. As to the June and not May, sorry but many can't travel in May due to schools, colleges etcs, but the other reason was cost of flights. Hugs Cuz Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Shabo" <ljshabo@bellsouth.net> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [WGS] Wales > Re. travel to Caerwys, Wales from Manchester, please excuse my throwing > in my two cents. My name is Linda Shabo. am interested in making > trip and Becky, hopefully, will vouch for me. I am descended from > Thomas Wynne through his daughter Sydney. > > Anyway, I have traveled by train in the U.K and also by car. Wales is > not well served by trains. Train travel in Britain is good between > major destinations- > many trains on these major routes and no long waits for when there may > be another tain on the route. > > Caerwys is not a major destination. It is possible to travel by train > from Manchester to Holywell, but we don't know how often a train > to Holywell will run. Holywell is 89 kms. from Manchester and 13 > kilometers from Caerwys, a km.=.6 or 6/10 of a mile. > > Group would have to have car (road) transportation, especially if > members need to be able to nearby towns including Denbigh Castle which > is associated with our family (the Langfords and Thelwells) and do some > research. > > I think group would do well to consult with folks at Caerwys to see what > they suggest. Becky has mentioned wanted to ask Mayor Philip. > > Regarding airfare to Manchester. June is high season, so a typical fare > from Atlanta to Manchester high season averages 399-499 pounds > (multiply by 1.8) to get dollar figure. There is a surcharge > (additional cost) for anyone wishing to travel on days other than > Monday-Thursday. > > May travel would result in a cheaper, shoulder fare, not high season-nor > low (winter). In short, May could well save group an average of > $200.00 per ticket. However, it is my understanding that some members > of the group can not travel in May? > > Re. road travel to Caerwys. I would want to travel by train to Chester > which is connected to Manchester (several trains per day) and is > 71 kms from Manchester and 39 kms. from Caerwys because it is possible > to rent a car in Chester and going to Chester avoids having > to drive a car out of Manchester which is very large and carries > recommendations from both Michelin and Triple A not to drive on > Motorway if you can avoid it. Our last trip to Wales and Ireland (we > took car on ferry to Ireland), we took train from London to > Cardiff, Wales where we were met for Enterprise Rental staff with car > and, thus, avoided driving in a very populous area. It is bad enough > that cars in U.K. (lest anyone ever forget) drive on the LEFT side of > the road and that most car (those which don't cost big time) are manual > shift, end result is driver sits on right side of car shifting with left > hand while trying to remember to stay on left side of the road. > > Linda > > > > > . > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Re. travel to Caerwys, Wales from Manchester, please excuse my throwing in my two cents. My name is Linda Shabo. am interested in making trip and Becky, hopefully, will vouch for me. I am descended from Thomas Wynne through his daughter Sydney. Anyway, I have traveled by train in the U.K and also by car. Wales is not well served by trains. Train travel in Britain is good between major destinations- many trains on these major routes and no long waits for when there may be another tain on the route. Caerwys is not a major destination. It is possible to travel by train from Manchester to Holywell, but we don't know how often a train to Holywell will run. Holywell is 89 kms. from Manchester and 13 kilometers from Caerwys, a km.=.6 or 6/10 of a mile. Group would have to have car (road) transportation, especially if members need to be able to nearby towns including Denbigh Castle which is associated with our family (the Langfords and Thelwells) and do some research. I think group would do well to consult with folks at Caerwys to see what they suggest. Becky has mentioned wanted to ask Mayor Philip. Regarding airfare to Manchester. June is high season, so a typical fare from Atlanta to Manchester high season averages 399-499 pounds (multiply by 1.8) to get dollar figure. There is a surcharge (additional cost) for anyone wishing to travel on days other than Monday-Thursday. May travel would result in a cheaper, shoulder fare, not high season-nor low (winter). In short, May could well save group an average of $200.00 per ticket. However, it is my understanding that some members of the group can not travel in May? Re. road travel to Caerwys. I would want to travel by train to Chester which is connected to Manchester (several trains per day) and is 71 kms from Manchester and 39 kms. from Caerwys because it is possible to rent a car in Chester and going to Chester avoids having to drive a car out of Manchester which is very large and carries recommendations from both Michelin and Triple A not to drive on Motorway if you can avoid it. Our last trip to Wales and Ireland (we took car on ferry to Ireland), we took train from London to Cardiff, Wales where we were met for Enterprise Rental staff with car and, thus, avoided driving in a very populous area. It is bad enough that cars in U.K. (lest anyone ever forget) drive on the LEFT side of the road and that most car (those which don't cost big time) are manual shift, end result is driver sits on right side of car shifting with left hand while trying to remember to stay on left side of the road. Linda .

>From: Kathleen Spurgeon <kahspur16@verizon.net> Thanks for the info and it seems y e-mails are getting thru..Am feeling better...still get too tired. Went to see West Side Story show in Phila last night. It was great. Love and hugs, Cuz, Kathleen.....$2000 might be pretty steep. is that for one person. Depends on whether our vending machines are paid off so the profit is ours. >Date: Thu Jun 30 11:33:40 CDT 2005 >To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [WGS] test...are my e-mails getting through >From: Judy Winn <j-winn2@tamu.edu> >Same for Orval and I, depending on cost. >Hopefully we can make it >Hugs, Cuz, >Kathleen > >Date: Wed Jun 29 08:23:22 CDT 2005 >To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: {not a subscriber} Re: Fw: [WGS] Wales > >Becky, >Ron and I would also like to go, depending on the cost. > >Judy Winn > >>>> ttg-inc@comcast.net 6/28/2005 9:36 PM >>> > >Dear Cuz Kathleen, > I put you back on the WGS e-mail list. >As to the Wales trip, I am sure that there will be just one day of "Stuff" >at Caerwys, with the Mayor etc. But I thought we should also go to Hawarden >and look into the archives etc.... So right now I am saying probably a >Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday type of deal... but I don't know. I will >talk to Mayor Phillip and ask him what he has up his sleeves. > I would like everyone to give me a count of people they are bring with >them... so I can give an idea to Mayor Phillip as to how many are coming or >at least trying to. > I know for me I will go alone unless we hit it rich, then it will be >Hubby, kids and spouses, and my folks. So it will all just be according to >costs etc. >Hugs Cuz Becky >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kathleen Spurgeon" <kahspur16@verizon.net> >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:22 PM >Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Fw: [WGS] Wales > > >> >From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@comcast.net> >> Becky, how many days are planned for Wales? >> Cuz, Kathleen >> >> > > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >Kathleen M. Spurgeon > > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx Kathleen M. Spurgeon

>From: The Thill Group Inc <ttg-inc@co Thanks, Becky, will be awaiting more info. Hugs, Cuz, Kathleen and Orval >Date: Wed Jun 29 20:59:29 CDT 2005 >To: WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales - I need more info, please. >Dear Cuz Millie, and others > Ok this is the plan. The third week of June 2006 is the target date. >Exactly what day and for how many days may vary, according to a lot of >things. Mayor Phillip has left for a long delayed vacation for 12 days so I >can't talk to him until he returns to confirm the time frames I need to >figure out before we set a exact date. > After I speak to him I am going to be contacting a travel group to set up >what we can to get a cheap flight cost to Manchester, England. Then it is >recommended that we take a train to Caerwys, a 45 min trip. > Then we have to talk about housing, as there are only so many places to >stay, etc... So I am going to work up some questions and need everyone to >answer it honestly. > As to cost, .. Mayor Phillip said that it should cost us about what it >cost me to stay at the hotel last year at the reunion which was around >$1,000.00 >But.... I would say that $2000.00 would be more like it. But I could be >wrong.... That is what I want to find out... >Ok.. I will send the questionnaire in a bit. >Hugs Cuz Becky >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Millicent Newmiller" <dux50@comcast.net> >To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:44 PM >Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales - I need more info, please. > > >> Can anyone give me more info on this trip? Like the cost..is the 3rd >> weekend the date?...How >> long's the trip?...where to we leave from? >> >> Please? >> Millicent (Wynn) Newmiller >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "The Thill Group Inc" <ttg-inc@comcast.net> >> To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [WGS] Wales >> >> >> > Dear Queenie, >> > I am going to Wales, and who ever is going with me will be too. Third >> > weekend in June 2006 is what I am aiming at. >> > Hugs 1234 Love Cuz B >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Joyce Quigley" <JOYCEWWYNNE@msn.com> >> > To: <WYNNE-GENEALOGY-SOCIETY-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:20 PM >> > Subject: [WGS] Wales >> > >> > >> > > Are we still going to Wales? Love Queenie 1234 >> > > >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors >> > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> > >> >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta >> > rgetid=5429 >> > > >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Kathleen M. Spurgeon