Hi William I can't locate a copy of the notice itself but as far as I know it was a notice given to the person by the recruiting sergeant with the details of service they were agreeing to The recruit was given a date and place where they had to be to sign the attestation forms and its that notice the recruit is confirming the recruiter has given to him and that he understands it Recruiting agents would roam the country looking for potential recruits and sign them up but the Regiment may have been based a long way off in another County or area As you rightly allude to, conscription for WW1 started in Jan 1916 so yours was long before that Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/10/2012 08:04, William Thorne wrote: > Hi > > On these forms are a series of questions. Question 16 is the one in > which I am interested in learning more. > > It states "Did you receive a notice, and do you understand its meaning, > and who gave it to you?" > > I have thought up to now that it was a conscription form until the > soldier I am researching attested to the magistrate or attesting officer > on 5 September 1914, i.e long before Conscription was brought in. > > Could you please explain what the form was ? > > William Thorne

Hi EveryoneIs there someone who can help with a comment on a WW1 medal record.The comment concerns the 14 Star medal.The comments are in the Action Taken section and reads as: Deleted from 1914-15 Star Roll RFA/2A.G/2965Bought to charge CRV.46 d/9.1.20 auth.625 Adt.1914 Star scrapped by KC 19.1.20 Auth.625 Adt Thanks any help would be gratefully received Regards John Belchamber PS:The original can be seen on Ancestry.com in WW1 Medal records,soldier concerned is John Richard Belchamber.

Hi Don Thanks for your message. I'm in Bristol. William Matthews was transferred from the Glosters to the Hampshire Regiment in December 1918, so really I would need to find out what that regiment was up to post-1918 to see where William might have been sent. He was later transferred to the Worcestershire Regiment and finally the Warwickshire Regiment before being demobbed in December 1919. best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Don Farnham Sent: 31 August 2012 22:10 To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment Hi Mike, I would think that the next step would be to look at the books on offer on the Glosters website - see if anything inspires, or the library. I'm not sure where you are, so cannot say whether a local library would hold this sort of specific information/book. You say that the part of your gr-grandfathers record is almost unreadable. If I had his name, I could try for you. Don On 31/08/2012 21:28, Mike Matthews wrote: > Hi Don > > Thanks for the link. I've been in touch with the Glosters site and they > were able to help with details up to the end of the war, but not for the > period immediately after the war ended. I'm not sure where one looks for > details of where regiments were and what they were doing in the period Nov > 1918 - Nov 1919, when I believe my gr-grandfather was overseas. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Don Farnham > Sent: 30 August 2012 18:49 > To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment > > > Mike, > > My Grandfather was in the Gloucester's, and I came across this site :- > > http://www.glosters.org.uk/ > > There was a gentleman on that site who answered my query, and while he > didn't have anything specific to my Grandfather, he gave me a potted > history of what the Gloucester's were doing and where at the time he > would have been shot (he survived the war). > > Don Farnham > > On 30/08/2012 14:49, Mike Matthews wrote: >> Thanks Nivard >> >> I'm mainly trying to establish whether they went overseas at all, but it >> looks unlikely. I have my gr-grandfather's service record but > unfortunately >> the bit at the bottom where it says where he was at various stages is >> virtually unreadable. >> >> It would appear that he didn't go to France until after the war had ended. >> >> This is a different great-grandfather to the one who was in the AOC, by > the >> way! >> >> Best wishes >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Nivard Ovington >> Sent: 30 August 2012 14:32 >> To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment >> >> >> Hi Mike >> >> From the soldiers that died there are five soldiers who died during >> 1918 from the 17th Btn Gloucesters, all died at home >> >> The Long Long trail does have an entry on them >> >> 17th Battalion >> Formed at Walton-on-the-Naze on 1 January 1917 from what had previously > been >> the 82nd Provisional Battalion of the TF. It had been formed in June 1915 >> from "Home Service only" personnel. Moved to Clacton-on-Sea in March 1917 >> and on to St Osyth in 1918. >> >> No medal cards for members of the 17th past 1917 as far as I can see >> >> All of which leads you to say they never left the UK >> >> Or are you trying to find out precisely where they were in the UK in 1918 > ? >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> On 30/08/2012 13:11, Mike Matthews wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have any idea what the above battalion was up to from >>> July-November 1918? The Long Long Trail provides no detail, and the >>> Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum also don't seem to know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike Matthews >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

... to Nirvard for sending me so much information about my grand father William Hughes - died 1915. I have never seen so much information about him. Thank you Nirvard. Marged

Hi Marged Do you have Williams service record ? On the National Archives Hughes William 188629 Liverpool, Lancashire Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services. General series to 1907. Hughes William 188629 Liverpool, Lancashire. Collection: Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies Date range: 09 December 1879 - 09 December 1879 Reference:ADM 188/320/229 Subjects:Military personnel, Navy When he married Edith Mary in 1912 he states he is a mariner, I suspect he may be away at sea in 1911 I can see three marriages for Edith, 1906 to JONES, 1912 to HUGHES and 1919 to another JONES In 1912 they give an address of 33 Jubilee street but they are not there in 1911 On their marriage in 1912 Williams father is a William HUGHES a Blacksmith , Ediths father is recorded as (deceased) but Williams is not which makes you think he is still alive in 1912 The witnesses in 1912 were a Thomas and Eleanor HUGHES Looking back I can find but one William HUGHES b1879/80 with a father William a Blacksmith with a mother Margaret , he has an older brother Thomas I can track those through the years Thomas marries an Eleanor ROTHERY in 1895 William HUGHES senior appears to have married a Margaret MILLINGTON on Christmas day at St Judes Liverpool in 1875, Williams father was also a Blacksmith named Thomas Let me know if you want copies or if its not the above family let me know what other details you have Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/09/2012 10:21, Marged wrote: > Oh, I;m sorry, yes - he did die in April. It was my mother who was > BORN in that March. > > Yes, this is my man, Nivard. Because his name was Hughes (very > common in Liverpool, especially with the name William) it is very > difficult for me to trace his family even in censuses. I do have > Genes Reunited membership. > > Will just have to keep searching. > > Sadly, by the time his memorial was recorded by the War Graves > Commission, my grandmother had remarried - her new name? Jones! > > Thank you for your interest. > > Marged >

Hi April You didn't say what makes you believe he was in Gloucestershire regiment ? Do you have any record with his name on or is it passed down information? ie a birth cert or ? In looking for him there are several problems, no doubt you have come up against these previously Looking for any Albert BARTLE or variation If he had served abroad he would be in the medal rolls In the medal rolls there are 10 Bert or Albert BARTLEs , none have a connection to the Gloucestershire regiment (it is possible a man could serve in more than one regiment and only be recorded in one of them) In soldiers died there is but one Albert BARTLE UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Albert Bartle Name: Albert Bartle Birth Place: Wyke, Yorks Death Date: 30 Aug 1918 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Brighouse Rank: Private Regiment: Machine Gun Corps Battalion: (Infantry) Number: 153580 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: Formerly 1713, W. Riding Regt. (although there is one Hubert BARTLE died 1918) UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Hubert Bartle Name: Hubert Bartle Birth Place: Bradford, Yorks Death Date: 4 Nov 1918 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Mexborough, Yorks Rank: Private Regiment: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment) Battalion: 2/4th Battalion Number: 40463 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre No BARTLE or similar died serving with the Gloucesters Checking all Alberts who died while serving in the Gloucesters I found none that could really be considered a misspelling for BARTLE , the nearest was UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Albert Donnett Bartlett Name: Albert Donnett Bartlett Birth Place: Ringwood, Hants Death Date: 28 Mar 1918 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Grays Rank: Private Regiment: Gloucestershire Regiment Battalion: 8th Service Battalion Number: 203248 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre (it should be said that soldiers died is not a complete database) Looking at the CWGC the same Albert BARTLE is the only one listed under that name There is only one other A BARTLE but he is an Arthur and has the added wording Son of John and Jane Bartle, of I, Alfred St., Camp Rd., Leeds; husband of Clara Bartle, of 3, Albion Square, Alverthorpe, Wakefield. So I suppose I am asking what evidence you have for saying that Albert BARTLE was actually the man and what tells you the regiment he was in Checking Ancestry for GRA*NGES and Gloucestershire regiment gets no hits at all I am afraid , in fact no military hits at all If you want to take a closer look yourself and browse through its very easy on Ancestry, do you have a library or FHS near enough to visit? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/09/2012 08:36, Ashton April wrote: > Dear Nivard > > Thank you for your kind offer - again. > > I know nothing about my grandfather,Albert Bartle's background. > > What I do know is that:- > > - he was in England around November 1915 - he was in France in August > 1916 - that he died ........... he and my grandmother were planning > marriage (her wedding dress was still wrapped in tissue paper when > she died in 1983, age 87yrs. > > So my deductions are that a marriage was planned, but he > died............. if he had come home they would have > married............. so did he die in France? My grandmothers > maternal home was in Woodham Walter - did she meet her fiancee in the > area - possibly when he was stationed at Witham, before going to > France? > > This is why I am keen to scan any available lists - and you say there > is one for the Glos Bns - and that 385 men died alone in August 1916 > - with mis spellings on my grandmothers hospital admissions records, > I am looking for variations on the name............... I would also > be keen to know whether there are any GRA(I)NGES on any of the lists > available to look at as the is the possibility that he attested with > one of my grandmothers brothers, or was a friend. As always I am > looking for the proverbial needles in haystacks but you never know > your luck............. > > Kind regards, April

Oh, I;m sorry, yes - he did die in April. It was my mother who was BORN in that March. Yes, this is my man, Nivard. Because his name was Hughes (very common in Liverpool, especially with the name William) it is very difficult for me to trace his family even in censuses. I do have Genes Reunited membership. Will just have to keep searching. Sadly, by the time his memorial was recorded by the War Graves Commission, my grandmother had remarried - her new name? Jones! Thank you for your interest. Marged Hi Marged Are you sure he died in March? not April perhaps? War deaths are registered in a separate GRO index I take it this is your man ? HUGHES, WILLIAM Rank: Able Seaman Service No: 188629 Date of Death: 25/04/1915 Age: 35 Regiment/Service: Royal Navy (RFR/CH/B/6314) H.M.S. Cornwallis Grave Reference I. 8. Cemetery V BEACH CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of William and Margaret Hughes, of Liverpool; husband of Edith M. Jones (formerly Hughes), of 24, Fedora St., Liverpool. His death is registered as follows HUGHES William Ship Cornwallis Rank Able Seaman Year 1915 Vol RN Page 1957 You can apply to the GRO using the above in the normal way However, please be aware it will contain no details about parentage, in fact it will most likely say Killed at Sea, theatre of war = Balkans Plus the date(s) as known If this is not your man let me know and I will see what I can find Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/09/2012 08:56, Marged wrote: > The questions April is raising here bring a question of my own to > mind. > > My grandfather (William Hughes - what a name!) died on 23rd/25th > March 1915, at Gallipoli, when my mother was four weeks old. > > I would love to be able to send for a death certificate for him, to > get further details about his father, William Hughes, but it seems > unlikely that I will be able to do this, since he died abroad. > > Is this a fact - that those who die in the service of the armed > forces (Royal Navy in his case) would not have death certificates in > the usual way? > > I have found him on the War Graves site. > > Marged > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marged Are you sure he died in March? not April perhaps? War deaths are registered in a separate GRO index I take it this is your man ? HUGHES, WILLIAM Rank: Able Seaman Service No: 188629 Date of Death: 25/04/1915 Age: 35 Regiment/Service: Royal Navy (RFR/CH/B/6314) H.M.S. Cornwallis Grave Reference I. 8. Cemetery V BEACH CEMETERY Additional Information: Son of William and Margaret Hughes, of Liverpool; husband of Edith M. Jones (formerly Hughes), of 24, Fedora St., Liverpool. His death is registered as follows HUGHES William Ship Cornwallis Rank Able Seaman Year 1915 Vol RN Page 1957 You can apply to the GRO using the above in the normal way However, please be aware it will contain no details about parentage, in fact it will most likely say Killed at Sea, theatre of war = Balkans Plus the date(s) as known If this is not your man let me know and I will see what I can find Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/09/2012 08:56, Marged wrote: > The questions April is raising here bring a question of my own to > mind. > > My grandfather (William Hughes - what a name!) died on 23rd/25th > March 1915, at Gallipoli, when my mother was four weeks old. > > I would love to be able to send for a death certificate for him, to > get further details about his father, William Hughes, but it seems > unlikely that I will be able to do this, since he died abroad. > > Is this a fact - that those who die in the service of the armed > forces (Royal Navy in his case) would not have death certificates in > the usual way? > > I have found him on the War Graves site. > > Marged >

The questions April is raising here bring a question of my own to mind. My grandfather (William Hughes - what a name!) died on 23rd/25th March 1915, at Gallipoli, when my mother was four weeks old. I would love to be able to send for a death certificate for him, to get further details about his father, William Hughes, but it seems unlikely that I will be able to do this, since he died abroad. Is this a fact - that those who die in the service of the armed forces (Royal Navy in his case) would not have death certificates in the usual way? I have found him on the War Graves site. Marged Dear Nivard Thank you for your kind offer - again. I know nothing about my grandfather,Albert Bartle's background. What I do know is that:- - he was in England around November 1915 - he was in France in August 1916 - that he died ........... he and my grandmother were planning marriage (her wedding dress was still wrapped in tissue paper when she died in 1983, age 87yrs. So my deductions are that a marriage was planned, but he died............. if he had come home they would have married............. so did he die in France? My grandmothers maternal home was in Woodham Walter - did she meet her fiancee in the area - possibly when he was stationed at Witham, before going to France? This is why I am keen to scan any available lists - and you say there is one for the Glos Bns - and that 385 men died alone in August 1916 - with mis spellings on my grandmothers hospital admissions records, I am looking for variations on the name............... I would also be keen to know whether there are any GRA(I)NGES on any of the lists available to look at as the is the possibility that he attested with one of my grandmothers brothers, or was a friend. As always I am looking for the proverbial needles in haystacks but you never know your luck............. Kind regards, April On 4 Sep 2012, at 10:46, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi again > > I see Michael has just beaten me to saying the CWGC has been much > improved for searching > > However, having done a search I can find nothing on your man > > Can we start from the beginning please > > Where and when was he born? > Who were his parents? > How do you know he was in the Gloucesters? > How do you know he died in Aug 1916? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 04/09/2012 10:05, Ashton April wrote: >> Dear Nivard >> >> Thank you. You have tried to help me before and I have searched the CWGC site....... I am looking for an Albert Bartle who died - who was in France in August 1916......... but he is unlikely to be the Albert Bartle listed on the CWGC site. I am considering that his name may have been misspelt on my grandmothers hospital admissions form ( there were several other errors) so I am keen to trawl through the names of the Glos Bns to see if there is any possibility................ Albert Bartle was my grandfather and my grandmothers home was in Little Baddow / Woodham Walter near Witham in Essex. >> >> April Wood Ashton >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Nivard Thank you for your kind offer - again. I know nothing about my grandfather,Albert Bartle's background. What I do know is that:- - he was in England around November 1915 - he was in France in August 1916 - that he died ........... he and my grandmother were planning marriage (her wedding dress was still wrapped in tissue paper when she died in 1983, age 87yrs. So my deductions are that a marriage was planned, but he died............. if he had come home they would have married............. so did he die in France? My grandmothers maternal home was in Woodham Walter - did she meet her fiancee in the area - possibly when he was stationed at Witham, before going to France? This is why I am keen to scan any available lists - and you say there is one for the Glos Bns - and that 385 men died alone in August 1916 - with mis spellings on my grandmothers hospital admissions records, I am looking for variations on the name............... I would also be keen to know whether there are any GRA(I)NGES on any of the lists available to look at as the is the possibility that he attested with one of my grandmothers brothers, or was a friend. As always I am looking for the proverbial needles in haystacks but you never know your luck............. Kind regards, April On 4 Sep 2012, at 10:46, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi again > > I see Michael has just beaten me to saying the CWGC has been much > improved for searching > > However, having done a search I can find nothing on your man > > Can we start from the beginning please > > Where and when was he born? > Who were his parents? > How do you know he was in the Gloucesters? > How do you know he died in Aug 1916? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 04/09/2012 10:05, Ashton April wrote: >> Dear Nivard >> >> Thank you. You have tried to help me before and I have searched the CWGC site....... I am looking for an Albert Bartle who died - who was in France in August 1916......... but he is unlikely to be the Albert Bartle listed on the CWGC site. I am considering that his name may have been misspelt on my grandmothers hospital admissions form ( there were several other errors) so I am keen to trawl through the names of the Glos Bns to see if there is any possibility................ Albert Bartle was my grandfather and my grandmothers home was in Little Baddow / Woodham Walter near Witham in Essex. >> >> April Wood Ashton >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jean Never heard of them personally, however http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_Frontiersmen Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/09/2012 15:16, Mick Jane wrote: > Hi List > > Has anyone heard of The Legion of Frontiersmen? > I have a photograph, that was taken in Louth, Lincolnshire, of my > Grandfather who was a member of this organisation. Having traced much of > his past history and only having just come across this new information, I > would really like to look into his service with the Frontiersmen; so would > very much appreciate help in knowing where to go for information. > > Many thanks > Jean

Hi List Has anyone heard of The Legion of Frontiersmen? I have a photograph, that was taken in Louth, Lincolnshire, of my Grandfather who was a member of this organisation. Having traced much of his past history and only having just come across this new information, I would really like to look into his service with the Frontiersmen; so would very much appreciate help in knowing where to go for information. Many thanks Jean

Hi again I see Michael has just beaten me to saying the CWGC has been much improved for searching However, having done a search I can find nothing on your man Can we start from the beginning please Where and when was he born? Who were his parents? How do you know he was in the Gloucesters? How do you know he died in Aug 1916? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/09/2012 10:05, Ashton April wrote: > Dear Nivard > > Thank you. You have tried to help me before and I have searched the CWGC site....... I am looking for an Albert Bartle who died - who was in France in August 1916......... but he is unlikely to be the Albert Bartle listed on the CWGC site. I am considering that his name may have been misspelt on my grandmothers hospital admissions form ( there were several other errors) so I am keen to trawl through the names of the Glos Bns to see if there is any possibility................ Albert Bartle was my grandfather and my grandmothers home was in Little Baddow / Woodham Walter near Witham in Essex. > > April Wood Ashton >

Dear April CWGC have updated their website and the search facility is much improved It is now possible and simple to search for all those who died from a specified military unit and between the dates you stipulate. There are parameters that you can use, surname, rank, initials etc. It is very easy and you will be able to spot mis-spellings very easily Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ashton April Sent: 04 September 2012 10:05 To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment Dear Nivard Thank you. You have tried to help me before and I have searched the CWGC site....... I am looking for an Albert Bartle who died - who was in France in August 1916......... but he is unlikely to be the Albert Bartle listed on the CWGC site. I am considering that his name may have been misspelt on my grandmothers hospital admissions form ( there were several other errors) so I am keen to trawl through the names of the Glos Bns to see if there is any possibility................ Albert Bartle was my grandfather and my grandmothers home was in Little Baddow / Woodham Walter near Witham in Essex. April Wood Ashton > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Nivard Thank you. You have tried to help me before and I have searched the CWGC site....... I am looking for an Albert Bartle who died - who was in France in August 1916......... but he is unlikely to be the Albert Bartle listed on the CWGC site. I am considering that his name may have been misspelt on my grandmothers hospital admissions form ( there were several other errors) so I am keen to trawl through the names of the Glos Bns to see if there is any possibility................ Albert Bartle was my grandfather and my grandmothers home was in Little Baddow / Woodham Walter near Witham in Essex. April Wood Ashton On 4 Sep 2012, at 09:53, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi again > > Yes there is but the Commonwealth War Graves Commission should be more > complete > > If you post the details I can check both for you > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 04/09/2012 09:40, Ashton April wrote: >> Dear Nivard >> >> Thank you - I do not suppose there is any record by name of those, in the Glos Bns, who in August 1916 died in France? >> >> Kind regards, >> April Wood Ashton > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Yes there is but the Commonwealth War Graves Commission should be more complete If you post the details I can check both for you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/09/2012 09:40, Ashton April wrote: > Dear Nivard > > Thank you - I do not suppose there is any record by name of those, in the Glos Bns, who in August 1916 died in France? > > Kind regards, > April Wood Ashton

Dear Nivard Thank you - I do not suppose there is any record by name of those, in the Glos Bns, who in August 1916 died in France? Kind regards, April Wood Ashton On 4 Sep 2012, at 09:34, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi April > > The Long Long Trail has much on the Gloucesters (and most other Regiments) > > http://www.1914-1918.net/glos.htm > > Soldiers died shows several battalions whose members died on foreign > soil in 1916 (2520 in 1916 alone, 385 in August 1916) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 04/09/2012 09:23, Ashton April wrote: >> Dear Mike >> >> I have picked up on your enquiries. >> >> The Essex Record Office does have details (and some photos) about >> the Royal Gloucesters, when they were stationed in Essex. For myself, >> I should be interested to know whether there were any Bns in France >> in August 1916. >> >> April Wood Ashton > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi April The Long Long Trail has much on the Gloucesters (and most other Regiments) http://www.1914-1918.net/glos.htm Soldiers died shows several battalions whose members died on foreign soil in 1916 (2520 in 1916 alone, 385 in August 1916) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/09/2012 09:23, Ashton April wrote: > Dear Mike > > I have picked up on your enquiries. > > The Essex Record Office does have details (and some photos) about > the Royal Gloucesters, when they were stationed in Essex. For myself, > I should be interested to know whether there were any Bns in France > in August 1916. > > April Wood Ashton

Dear Mike I have picked up on your enquiries. The Essex Record Office does have details (and some photos) about the Royal Gloucesters, when they were stationed in Essex. For myself, I should be interested to know whether there were any Bns in France in August 1916. April Wood Ashton On 30 Aug 2012, at 14:49, Mike Matthews wrote: > Thanks Nivard > > I'm mainly trying to establish whether they went overseas at all, but it > looks unlikely. I have my gr-grandfather's service record but unfortunately > the bit at the bottom where it says where he was at various stages is > virtually unreadable. > > It would appear that he didn't go to France until after the war had ended. > > This is a different great-grandfather to the one who was in the AOC, by the > way! > > Best wishes > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 30 August 2012 14:32 > To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment > > > Hi Mike > > From the soldiers that died there are five soldiers who died during > 1918 from the 17th Btn Gloucesters, all died at home > > The Long Long trail does have an entry on them > > 17th Battalion > Formed at Walton-on-the-Naze on 1 January 1917 from what had previously been > the 82nd Provisional Battalion of the TF. It had been formed in June 1915 > from "Home Service only" personnel. Moved to Clacton-on-Sea in March 1917 > and on to St Osyth in 1918. > > No medal cards for members of the 17th past 1917 as far as I can see > > All of which leads you to say they never left the UK > > Or are you trying to find out precisely where they were in the UK in 1918 ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/08/2012 13:11, Mike Matthews wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any idea what the above battalion was up to from >> July-November 1918? The Long Long Trail provides no detail, and the >> Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum also don't seem to know. >> >> >> >> Best wishes >> >> >> >> Mike Matthews > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, I would think that the next step would be to look at the books on offer on the Glosters website - see if anything inspires, or the library. I'm not sure where you are, so cannot say whether a local library would hold this sort of specific information/book. You say that the part of your gr-grandfathers record is almost unreadable. If I had his name, I could try for you. Don On 31/08/2012 21:28, Mike Matthews wrote: > Hi Don > > Thanks for the link. I've been in touch with the Glosters site and they > were able to help with details up to the end of the war, but not for the > period immediately after the war ended. I'm not sure where one looks for > details of where regiments were and what they were doing in the period Nov > 1918 - Nov 1919, when I believe my gr-grandfather was overseas. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Don Farnham > Sent: 30 August 2012 18:49 > To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment > > > Mike, > > My Grandfather was in the Gloucester's, and I came across this site :- > > http://www.glosters.org.uk/ > > There was a gentleman on that site who answered my query, and while he > didn't have anything specific to my Grandfather, he gave me a potted > history of what the Gloucester's were doing and where at the time he > would have been shot (he survived the war). > > Don Farnham > > On 30/08/2012 14:49, Mike Matthews wrote: >> Thanks Nivard >> >> I'm mainly trying to establish whether they went overseas at all, but it >> looks unlikely. I have my gr-grandfather's service record but > unfortunately >> the bit at the bottom where it says where he was at various stages is >> virtually unreadable. >> >> It would appear that he didn't go to France until after the war had ended. >> >> This is a different great-grandfather to the one who was in the AOC, by > the >> way! >> >> Best wishes >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Nivard Ovington >> Sent: 30 August 2012 14:32 >> To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] 17th Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment >> >> >> Hi Mike >> >> From the soldiers that died there are five soldiers who died during >> 1918 from the 17th Btn Gloucesters, all died at home >> >> The Long Long trail does have an entry on them >> >> 17th Battalion >> Formed at Walton-on-the-Naze on 1 January 1917 from what had previously > been >> the 82nd Provisional Battalion of the TF. It had been formed in June 1915 >> from "Home Service only" personnel. Moved to Clacton-on-Sea in March 1917 >> and on to St Osyth in 1918. >> >> No medal cards for members of the 17th past 1917 as far as I can see >> >> All of which leads you to say they never left the UK >> >> Or are you trying to find out precisely where they were in the UK in 1918 > ? >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> On 30/08/2012 13:11, Mike Matthews wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have any idea what the above battalion was up to from >>> July-November 1918? The Long Long Trail provides no detail, and the >>> Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum also don't seem to know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike Matthews >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >