Hello Doreen, Nivard, >I found an entry for an Alfred Burton ( 80446) who might be the one you want. >That one (80446) looked a good possible but he gives his next of kin as >Elizabeth nee WISE and his occupation ammunition ???? one child May in 1909 Not a terribly good match, I am afraid - wrong wife's name, wrong address, wrong occupation (given as rivetter later in the record - possibly on discharge). But many thanks to both for your interest and trouble. Ian

Hi Doreen That one (80446) looked a good possible but he gives his next of kin as Elizabeth nee WISE and his occupation ammunition ???? one child May in 1909 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/08/2014 20:36, Doreen Cuthbert via wrote: > Ian, > I found an entry for an Alfred Burton ( 80446) who might be the one you want. The record is damaged, but it looks as though it could be for the Gloucestershire regiment. >

Hello Doreen, Thanks for your reply. >Do you have access to Ancestry. They have military records. Yes - and I've looked for medal cards, service records etc without success - also trawled the London Gazette for information without finding anything relevant. However, in case it opens other avenues, or anyone can find records where I have failed, Alfred was born Lichfield, Staffs., 6th November 1876. son of Henry Burton (1840-1887) and Mary Ann nee Parker (1849-1919). I believe his training was undertaken in Birmingham - he is living with his widowed mother and other family members in Ladywood in 1901, as a gold jeweller, just a few streets from his future wife. By the time he married Gertrude Perkins in 1905 at St Stephen's, Worcester, he was resident in Stroud, Gloucs, where he lived the rest of his life - except, apparently for his war service. He had shops there in Gloucester Street and later at George Street. He died at Stroud, 26th September 1942. Best wishes, Ian

Dear all, I wonder if someone on list can kindly advise me on what is probably a terrible newbie question? My maternal grandfather Alfred Burton was - according to my own mother - called up during WW1. He was born in 1876, so rather old for combat, and I can find no evidence that he was ever involved in fighting. However, he was a jeweller and watchmaker by trade, so I speculate that he might have been drafted to work on military equipment, such as fuses or timers for munitions. Can anyone suggest sources or approaches by which I can research this? Many thanks, Ian

Ian, I found an entry for an Alfred Burton ( 80446) who might be the one you want. The record is damaged, but it looks as though it could be for the Gloucestershire regiment. Sent from my iPad > On 4 Aug 2014, at 14:24, "ian.sage@tiscali.co.uk via" <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Doreen, > > Thanks for your reply. > >> Do you have access to Ancestry. > They have military records. > Yes - and I've looked for medal cards, > service records etc without success - also trawled the London Gazette > for information without finding anything relevant. > > However, in case it > opens other avenues, or anyone can find records where I have failed, > Alfred was born Lichfield, Staffs., 6th November 1876. son of Henry > Burton (1840-1887) and Mary Ann nee Parker (1849-1919). I believe his > training was undertaken in Birmingham - he is living with his widowed > mother and other family members in Ladywood in 1901, as a gold > jeweller, just a few streets from his future wife. By the time he > married Gertrude Perkins in 1905 at St Stephen's, Worcester, he was > resident in Stroud, Gloucs, where he lived the rest of his life - > except, apparently for his war service. He had shops there in > Gloucester Street and later at George Street. He died at Stroud, 26th > September 1942. > > Best wishes, > > Ian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ian, Do you have access to Ancestry. They have military records. If not, if you can give some additional information, such as where he was born, where he lived, what was his wifes name - I will look to see if there is any information. I know for a fact that my grandfather was in the Black Watch during WW1, but I can't find any records. I have since discovered that he was in a reserve battalion, so did not actually go into the field of battle, and therefore did not get any medals. If he did get a medal there will be a medal card. Sent from my iPad > On 4 Aug 2014, at 13:21, "ian.sage@tiscali.co.uk via" <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I wonder if someone on list can kindly advise me on what is > probably a terrible newbie question? > > My maternal grandfather Alfred > Burton was - according to my own mother - called up during WW1. He was > born in 1876, so rather old for combat, and I can find no evidence that > he was ever involved in fighting. However, he was a jeweller and > watchmaker by trade, so I speculate that he might have been drafted to > work on military equipment, such as fuses or timers for munitions. > > Can > anyone suggest sources or approaches by which I can research this? > > > Many thanks, > > Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Interesting story on the BBC <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-28419718> You wonder how many others are out there? There must be many pieces of memorabilia out there with names of our long gone soldiers on or in them -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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Thank you for this, Nirvard, and for all the important information you give to this list. Marj Hi folks I thought it worth mentioning that Findmypast have also made available the surviving WW1 service records (WO363 & WO364) the burnt and unburnt records Findmypast have done their own searchable indexing with more keywords than hitherto available, place of birth for example Ancestry, presumably in response to that have re-indexed theirs as well, picking up relatives, places etc So never before have we had so many avenues to search better than we were able to until now A keyword only search for say a village or surname picks up all the incidences (or at least all those transcribed correctly) which is a great step forward Findmypast do not have a keyword search in the database but do have service number, regiment, birth = town, County & Country Since Ancestry introduced their (pitiful) new search you can't do a wild card search on service numbers which is a great pity but now at least there is a better chance of finding people with relatives, birthplace etc So definitely worth searching again if you haven't for a while -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3972/7784 - Release Date: 07/02/14

Hi all Just to say that there have been a few updates and introductions for WW1 data New data England, The National Roll of the Great War, 1914-1918 UK, De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour, 1914-1919 Updated (I only wish they would state what they have updated) British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 Ireland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1922 UK, Citations of the Distinguished Conduct Medal, 1914-1920 UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920 UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947 -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi folks I thought it worth mentioning that Findmypast have also made available the surviving WW1 service records (WO363 & WO364) the burnt and unburnt records Findmypast have done their own searchable indexing with more keywords than hitherto available, place of birth for example Ancestry, presumably in response to that have re-indexed theirs as well, picking up relatives, places etc So never before have we had so many avenues to search better than we were able to until now A keyword only search for say a village or surname picks up all the incidences (or at least all those transcribed correctly) which is a great step forward Findmypast do not have a keyword search in the database but do have service number, regiment, birth = town, County & Country Since Ancestry introduced their (pitiful) new search you can't do a wild card search on service numbers which is a great pity but now at least there is a better chance of finding people with relatives, birthplace etc So definitely worth searching again if you haven't for a while -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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Thanks Nivard - I had already found this. I have however just been sent some information about a Black Watch forum, so here's hoping I will get something there. Sent from my iPad > On 26 May 2014, at 11:14, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Doreen > > A small amount on the 3rd Btn here > > http://www.1914-1918.net/blackwatch.htm > > Sadly I did not find anything else on your man > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 26/05/2014 10:49, DOREEN CUTHBERT wrote: >> My grandfather, John Stevenson Dick, was born in Dundee in 1894. >> Before the war, he joined the Hong Kong Police. In 1916, he returned >> to Scotland, and a few weeks later was married. His marriage >> certificate states that he was in 3rd Battalion Black Watch. I have >> recently discovered that this was a reserve battalion, and it would >> appear that they did not go to war. As a child I was told that he was >> in The Black Watch during WW1, but nothing more, and at the time >> didn't think to ask. >> >> I have been unable to find any records relating to this service. Can >> anyone tell me any more about this battalion, or about where we can >> find records. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message