The other alternative, if you have the inclination is to sell them on ebay Michael Allbrook -----Original Message----- From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary via Sent: 25 February 2015 10:01 To: Mary Newbery; ww1-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] WW1 Books If you don't mind me butting in here Mary. As your brother lived in Northumberland - and presuming the books are still in that area - there is a massive bookshop in the old railway station at Alnwick (Barter Books I think they are called). Might be worth contacting them. Good luck in finding the books a good home. Regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Newbery via" <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> To: <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:27 AM Subject: [WW1-UK] WW1 Books > Thank you for your suggestion Jill but that webpage won’t load. Is it a UK > site? > Nivard, nice to hear from you again. My brother lived in Northumberland. > Best wishes, > Mary > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you don't mind me butting in here Mary. As your brother lived in Northumberland - and presuming the books are still in that area - there is a massive bookshop in the old railway station at Alnwick (Barter Books I think they are called). Might be worth contacting them. Good luck in finding the books a good home. Regards Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Newbery via" <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> To: <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:27 AM Subject: [WW1-UK] WW1 Books > Thank you for your suggestion Jill but that webpage won’t load. Is it a UK > site? > Nivard, nice to hear from you again. My brother lived in Northumberland. > Best wishes, > Mary > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for your suggestion Jill but that webpage won’t load. Is it a UK site? Nivard, nice to hear from you again. My brother lived in Northumberland. Best wishes, Mary --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

hello The list of book dealers on this webpage looks fairly comprehensive and might be of interest: http://www.militarybooksellers.com/bluelist.html Hope it's useful Jill On 24 February 2015 at 17:09, Mary Newbery via <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers, > I’m hoping for some expert advice from those of you with a wider knowledge > of books appertaining to WW1. > My late brother was extremely interested in all aspects of the great War > and collected many books on the subject. Now we are at a bit of a loss as > to what to do with them. Are there any specialist book shops which might be > interested, or libraries that might welcome them? > Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. They were worth so much to > him that we do not want to dispose of them lightly. > Best wishes, > Mary > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary Sincere condolences on your loss I wish I could suggest somewhere fitting It may help to give an idea of the County where they are, it may spark some suggestions Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/02/2015 17:09, Mary Newbery via wrote: > Dear Listers, I’m hoping for some expert advice from those of you > with a wider knowledge of books appertaining to WW1. My late brother > was extremely interested in all aspects of the great War and > collected many books on the subject. Now we are at a bit of a loss as > to what to do with them. Are there any specialist book shops which > might be interested, or libraries that might welcome them? Any > thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. They were worth so much to > him that we do not want to dispose of them lightly. Best wishes, > Mary

Dear Listers, I’m hoping for some expert advice from those of you with a wider knowledge of books appertaining to WW1. My late brother was extremely interested in all aspects of the great War and collected many books on the subject. Now we are at a bit of a loss as to what to do with them. Are there any specialist book shops which might be interested, or libraries that might welcome them? Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. They were worth so much to him that we do not want to dispose of them lightly. Best wishes, Mary --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

New on Ancestry (I believe they are already on findmypast, or at least some are) Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1900-1928 These registers record the service of seamen in the Royal Navy. Records include birthdate, birthplace, vessels served on, and dates of service. The registers include seamen who began their service beween 1900 and 1918, with dates of service up through 1928. Make sure to check the image of the original record, where you may also find occupation in service, physical description, reasons for discharge, and other personal details. You can find details on the system used for assigning service numbers at TNA’s website. -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Congratulations Nivard! As ever you have done an amazing bit of detective work worthy of Holmes himself. And congratulations to Geoff of the Waverley RSL Sub-Branch for going that extra mile as many in that organisation do every day.Great story.Cheers, Luned in Blaenavon On 10/02/2015 02:00, Geoff Dare via wrote: >> I am trying to trace descendants of Cpl C F Thomas, 48584, RFA. >> >> He is believed to have died in Melbourne, Australia several years ago >> however the task is complicated by having a fairly common surname and no >> Christian names or a date to go on. >> >> I would be most grateful if someone can identify him through his service >> number and advise me accordingly. >> >> >> Geoff Dare >> Appeals Officer >> Waverley RSL Sub-Branch >> Ph: 0417 593 001 >> Glen Waverley  Vic.  Australia Hi Geoff He would be Sergeant Charles French THOMAS RFA 48584 A/B.S.M. (I take  that to be acting battery sergeant major) 1915-15 Star as Corporal 48584 date of embarkation 4th Sept 1915  (1)  (France) Victory & British War medals The only Charles French THOMAS I can see is a birth reg in the 3rd qtr  of 1883 reg Dartford Kent I will look further and come back to you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) - Further Parents marriage Name:     Edward William Thomas Gender:     Male Marriage Date:     9 Sep 1877 Marriage Place:     Greenhithe, Kent, England Father:     Edward William Thomas Spouse:     Annie Kentish French FHL Film Number:     1473679 Reference ID:     item 3 p 57 1891 census Hove Sussex (father conflicts in name on death but informant may be lacking in  knowledge) Edward THOMAS 36 coachman dom serv Sittingbourne Kent Annie THOMAS 38                  Gravesend  Kent George THOMAS 9                  Greenhithe Kent Charles THOMAS 7                Greenhithe Kent Marion THOMAS 5                  Greenhithe Kent RG12 816 77 19 1901 census Abinger Surrey Charles F THOMAS single 19 Footman Greenhithe Kent RG13 621 75 23 sch 139 Queensland Commonwealth Electoral Roll 1934 Transcription First name(s)     Charles French Last name     Thomas Sex     Male Occupation     labourer Residence     A. E. Fairweather's, Abercorn Year     1934 Division     Capricornia Country     Australia State     Queensland Number     2123 Record set     Queensland Electoral Rolls Category     Census, Land & Substitutes Record collection     Electoral Rolls Collections from     Australia & New Zealand Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Transcription First name(s)     Charles French Last name     Thomas Age     69 Sex     Male Birth year     1883 Death year     1952 Father's name     Charles French Mother's name     Annie Thomas French Death place     Footscray State     Victoria Registration number     4834 Record set     Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Category     Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers) Record collection     Deaths & burials Collections from     Australia & New Zealand Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:36:57 +1100 From: Geoff Dare <gadare@tpg.com.au> Subject: Re: [WW1-UK] Cpl C F Thomas, 48584 To: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com>, <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D1003F36.1FEA2%gadare@tpg.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="US-ASCII" Hello Nivard Thank you very much for your most prompt and informative reply. It is now 11:30 pm but thanks to you I have now identified his burial place and have a lead to search for descendants. You made mention to his 1914-1915 star, which I presently have in my possession.  Apparently some years ago his daughter passed it to friend to have a new ribbon attached however the friend passed away and contact was lost. Recently the Star found its way to me to see if I could trace the family and return it to where it belongs. Kindest regards Geoff A Flamank Descendant  and lover of Cornwall.

Hello Nivard Thank you very much for your most prompt and informative reply. It is now 11:30 pm but thanks to you I have now identified his burial place and have a lead to search for descendants. You made mention to his 1914-1915 star, which I presently have in my possession. Apparently some years ago his daughter passed it to friend to have a new ribbon attached however the friend passed away and contact was lost. Recently the Star found its way to me to see if I could trace the family and return it to where it belongs. Kindest regards Geoff A Flamank Descendant and lover of Cornwall. On 10/02/2015 9:10 pm, "Nivard Ovington via" <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >Further > >Parents marriage > >Name: Edward William Thomas >Gender: Male >Marriage Date: 9 Sep 1877 >Marriage Place: Greenhithe, Kent, England >Father: Edward William Thomas >Spouse: Annie Kentish French >FHL Film Number: 1473679 >Reference ID: item 3 p 57 > > > >1891 census Hove Sussex >(father conflicts in name on death but informant may be lacking in >knowledge) >Edward THOMAS 36 coachman dom serv Sittingbourne Kent >Annie THOMAS 38 Gravesend Kent >George THOMAS 9 Greenhithe Kent >Charles THOMAS 7 Greenhithe Kent >Marion THOMAS 5 Greenhithe Kent >RG12 816 77 19 > > >1901 census Abinger Surrey >Charles F THOMAS single 19 Footman Greenhithe Kent >RG13 621 75 23 sch 139 > > >Queensland Commonwealth Electoral Roll 1934 Transcription >First name(s) Charles French >Last name Thomas >Sex Male >Occupation labourer >Residence A. E. Fairweather's, Abercorn >Year 1934 >Division Capricornia >Country Australia >State Queensland >Number 2123 >Record set Queensland Electoral Rolls >Category Census, Land & Substitutes >Record collection Electoral Rolls >Collections from Australia & New Zealand > > >Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Transcription > >First name(s) Charles French >Last name Thomas >Age 69 >Sex Male >Birth year 1883 >Death year 1952 >Father's name Charles French >Mother's name Annie Thomas French >Death place Footscray >State Victoria >Registration number 4834 >Record set Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 >Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers) >Record collection Deaths & burials >Collections from Australia & New Zealand > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 10/02/2015 02:00, Geoff Dare via wrote: >> I am trying to trace descendants of Cpl C F Thomas, 48584, RFA. >> >> He is believed to have died in Melbourne, Australia several years ago >> however the task is complicated by having a fairly common surname and no >> Christian names or a date to go on. >> >> I would be most grateful if someone can identify him through his service >> number and advise me accordingly. >> >> >> Geoff Dare >> Appeals Officer >> Waverley RSL Sub-Branch >> Ph: 0417 593 001 >> Glen Waverley Vic. Australia > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to trace descendants of Cpl C F Thomas, 48584, RFA. He is believed to have died in Melbourne, Australia several years ago however the task is complicated by having a fairly common surname and no Christian names or a date to go on. I would be most grateful if someone can identify him through his service number and advise me accordingly. Geoff Dare Appeals Officer Waverley RSL Sub-Branch Ph: 0417 593 001 Glen Waverley Vic. Australia

Further Parents marriage Name: Edward William Thomas Gender: Male Marriage Date: 9 Sep 1877 Marriage Place: Greenhithe, Kent, England Father: Edward William Thomas Spouse: Annie Kentish French FHL Film Number: 1473679 Reference ID: item 3 p 57 1891 census Hove Sussex (father conflicts in name on death but informant may be lacking in knowledge) Edward THOMAS 36 coachman dom serv Sittingbourne Kent Annie THOMAS 38 Gravesend Kent George THOMAS 9 Greenhithe Kent Charles THOMAS 7 Greenhithe Kent Marion THOMAS 5 Greenhithe Kent RG12 816 77 19 1901 census Abinger Surrey Charles F THOMAS single 19 Footman Greenhithe Kent RG13 621 75 23 sch 139 Queensland Commonwealth Electoral Roll 1934 Transcription First name(s) Charles French Last name Thomas Sex Male Occupation labourer Residence A. E. Fairweather's, Abercorn Year 1934 Division Capricornia Country Australia State Queensland Number 2123 Record set Queensland Electoral Rolls Category Census, Land & Substitutes Record collection Electoral Rolls Collections from Australia & New Zealand Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Transcription First name(s) Charles French Last name Thomas Age 69 Sex Male Birth year 1883 Death year 1952 Father's name Charles French Mother's name Annie Thomas French Death place Footscray State Victoria Registration number 4834 Record set Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers) Record collection Deaths & burials Collections from Australia & New Zealand Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/02/2015 02:00, Geoff Dare via wrote: > I am trying to trace descendants of Cpl C F Thomas, 48584, RFA. > > He is believed to have died in Melbourne, Australia several years ago > however the task is complicated by having a fairly common surname and no > Christian names or a date to go on. > > I would be most grateful if someone can identify him through his service > number and advise me accordingly. > > > Geoff Dare > Appeals Officer > Waverley RSL Sub-Branch > Ph: 0417 593 001 > Glen Waverley Vic. Australia

Hi Geoff He would be Sergeant Charles French THOMAS RFA 48584 A/B.S.M. (I take that to be acting battery sergeant major) 1915-15 Star as Corporal 48584 date of embarkation 4th Sept 1915 (1) (France) Victory & British War medals The only Charles French THOMAS I can see is a birth reg in the 3rd qtr of 1883 reg Dartford Kent I will look further and come back to you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/02/2015 02:00, Geoff Dare via wrote: > I am trying to trace descendants of Cpl C F Thomas, 48584, RFA. > > He is believed to have died in Melbourne, Australia several years ago > however the task is complicated by having a fairly common surname and no > Christian names or a date to go on. > > I would be most grateful if someone can identify him through his service > number and advise me accordingly. > > > Geoff Dare > Appeals Officer > Waverley RSL Sub-Branch > Ph: 0417 593 001 > Glen Waverley Vic. Australia

Many thanks Nivard, That's brilliant! I can do a bit more research now that I know what to look for. Thanks again for all your help. Lesley On 30/01/2015 21:43, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > Hi Lesley > > The better resolution helps a great deal you will be pleased to hear > > My original opinion that it was the Manchester regiment is confirmed by > the better picture, it also highlighted cloth badges on their shoulders > > I asked for a second opinion from some knowledgeable army types who > backed up the Manchester regiment for the cap badge > > And on the cloth shoulder badges :- > > 2nd Manchesters. The sleeve badge is a red triangle for 96th Brigade of > 32nd Division, above three bars of company colour. Three bars indicate > the 3rd senior battalion in the brigade and the colours were A company - > red, B company - green, C company - yellow, D company blue and H/Qs > company black. > > The battalion moved to 96th Brigade on 6/2/1918 so the picture > post-dates that. > > All of which adds to the knowledge and fits the dating also > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/01/2015 10:48, Lesley Baxendale wrote: >> Hi Nivard, >> >> At long last I've found the original of the photo you had a look at >> for me. >> >> I've re-scanned it at a higher resolution and cropped it to keep the >> file size down. >> >> I tried cropping further & scanning at an even higher resolution, but >> there was no discernible difference and the file size was too big to >> e-mail. >> >> This clip is at 1200dpi and is as good as I can get it I think. >> >> I still can't read the shoulder badge, but perhaps you will recognise it. >> >> Could you have a look at it please & see what you think. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Lesley. >

I am interested in the history of the Cottage Hospital in Fleetwood Road in the years just after the First World War. I have a relative John Edward Booth who died there in 1920 from Valvular Heart Disease. John was described as a corporal in the Cheshire Regiment at the time of his death. He appears on the CWGC memorial site as follows: John E. Booth 33944, Depot Bn, Cheshire Regiment who died on 04 February 1920 Age 40 He was Remembered with Honour Manchester Southern Cemetery. His widow lived in 20, Baxter St., Hulme, Manchester. Is it unusual for someone to be commemorated in this way when he died as a result of a heart condition some 2 years after the end of the war or does this suggest theat his condition was in some way related to his service. Was the Cottage Hospital used to treat servicemen? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

At 06:46 PM 16/01/2015, you wrote: >Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Hi Nivard, Is this the title under the card catalogue as I can't find it Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Mike Just catching up on mails I believe you have it correct as Hospital Ship Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/01/2015 11:37, Mike Matthews wrote: > Hi Nivard > > Thanks for the heads up on this - already found some interesting stuff. But do you know what "H.S. Soudan" was in relation to the Dardanelles campaign? > > Best wishes > > Mike

Hi Marilyn Sorry its a late reply and hope you already found the database If not check the See all new records link on the home page Top item in the UK and Ireland records Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/01/2015 11:30, Watson Family wrote: > At 06:46 PM 16/01/2015, you wrote: >> Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 > > > Hi Nivard, > Is this the title under the card catalogue as I can't find it > Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > >

Just realised - Hospital Ship, presumably? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Matthews [mailto:mike@boddyparts.co.uk] Sent: 16 January 2015 11:38 To: 'Nivard Ovington'; 'ww1-uk@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [WW1-UK] New data on Ancestry > Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Hi Nivard Thanks for the heads up on this - already found some interesting stuff. But do you know what "H.S. Soudan" was in relation to the Dardanelles campaign? Best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 16 January 2015 10:46 To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [WW1-UK] New data on Ancestry > Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Released yesterday Don't expect too much from this database but it can add to your knowledge and may provide the crucial next of kin information About UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 This database contains records detailing the money owed to soldiers of the British Army who died in service from 1901 to 1929. A small percentage of soldiers who were discharged as ‘insane’ are also listed here. Records typically include the name of the soldier, his next of kin and their relationship, the date of death and sometimes the place, plus other details. In cases where the soldier was discharged as insane, the place and date of discharge are often recorded in the place and date of death field. The inclusion of the next of kin makes these records particularly valuable to family historians, as this information can help researchers take a family back another generation or distinguish between soldiers with the same name. Early records also list a soldier’s trade before enlistment. Payments went first to widows, or, if the soldier wasn’t married, to a parent (often a mother) or siblings. -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8939 - Release Date: 01/16/15

Hi Nivard Thanks for the heads up on this - already found some interesting stuff. But do you know what "H.S. Soudan" was in relation to the Dardanelles campaign? Best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ww1-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via Sent: 16 January 2015 10:46 To: ww1-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [WW1-UK] New data on Ancestry > Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Released yesterday Don't expect too much from this database but it can add to your knowledge and may provide the crucial next of kin information About UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 This database contains records detailing the money owed to soldiers of the British Army who died in service from 1901 to 1929. A small percentage of soldiers who were discharged as ‘insane’ are also listed here. Records typically include the name of the soldier, his next of kin and their relationship, the date of death and sometimes the place, plus other details. In cases where the soldier was discharged as insane, the place and date of discharge are often recorded in the place and date of death field. The inclusion of the next of kin makes these records particularly valuable to family historians, as this information can help researchers take a family back another generation or distinguish between soldiers with the same name. Early records also list a soldier’s trade before enlistment. Payments went first to widows, or, if the soldier wasn’t married, to a parent (often a mother) or siblings. -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8939 - Release Date: 01/16/15

Released yesterday Don't expect too much from this database but it can add to your knowledge and may provide the crucial next of kin information About UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 This database contains records detailing the money owed to soldiers of the British Army who died in service from 1901 to 1929. A small percentage of soldiers who were discharged as ‘insane’ are also listed here. Records typically include the name of the soldier, his next of kin and their relationship, the date of death and sometimes the place, plus other details. In cases where the soldier was discharged as insane, the place and date of discharge are often recorded in the place and date of death field. The inclusion of the next of kin makes these records particularly valuable to family historians, as this information can help researchers take a family back another generation or distinguish between soldiers with the same name. Early records also list a soldier’s trade before enlistment. Payments went first to widows, or, if the soldier wasn’t married, to a parent (often a mother) or siblings. -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)